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> Reuters used to represent a "just the facts" news wire. After reading the article I'm still not seeing the problem. The sentences in the article are factual

> Reuters used to represent a "just the facts" news wire. After reading the article I'm still not seeing the problem. The sentences in the article are factual information, there is no obvious editorial bias like a CNN or Fox article, and there is nothing telling you how to feel (e.g. "You should be afraid" NYT title). Reuters still seems pretty good compared to what's available out there.

PraetorianGourd 5y ago
Publishing the story is itself an editorial decision.
- nathanaldensr 5y ago
  Are you asking for self-censorship of facts?
  - trobertson 5y ago
    From the GP: > Two people having breakthrough infections for any variant is not at all unlikely The point is that this fact isn't newsworthy... unless Reuters is running an agenda. This article is blatant fearmongering.
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      News is a two way street. People want to stay informed about Coronavirus, Reuters is happy to run stories on the topic. They've probably got a few editors focused on the topic, and maybe today was what you might call a "slow news day" in the industry. You can't stand in front of the firehose and complain about being wet though.
      - PraetorianGourd 5y ago
        I most certainly can when the person operating the firehose does so under the guise of professional standards where they claim to only use their granted powers to inform, not to convince or persuade. Reuters isn’t like CNN or Fox who hide their prime time talking heads behind some technicality of “entertainment vs news”. Reuters claims to be news, full stop. If they live by that sword they better be prepared to be judged by that sword
    - native_samples 5y ago
      Of course it's news. Governments are massively ramping up booster programmes specifically because of Omicron, and here are two doctors at the very same hospital who had it despite having had three shots. Note these are not "two random doctors separated in time by a large amount", they're two doctors who work together. Conclusion: booster shots do not stop people getting it or getting infected. People flagging this thread are in denial. This is an event of direct relevance to the justification for government policies affecting billions of people, that's why Reuters considers it newsworthy.
      - seba_dos1 5y ago
        > Conclusion: booster shots do not stop people getting it or getting infected. ...and that's a non-news. We know that, we didn't expect anything else for a long time now since it's also true for other variants. Booster policies were made with that information already taken into account.
        native_samples 5y ago
        A whole lot of people don't realize that. BBC News quoted just a few days ago someone saying that vaccine passports made her feel safe, because she knows everyone is tested, recovered or vaccinated. The fact that she can still get COVID from other vaccinated people hadn't registered and the BBC didn't bother pointing it out.
      - daveguy 5y ago
        Two examples is not remotely proof that "booster shots do not stop people getting it or getting infected." Stop pushing this agenda. It is ignorant and false.
        new_realist 5y ago
        It is an existence proof of two. People, in this case two people, did get it.
        5y ago
  - dwaltrip 5y ago
    You want to hear all of the facts? Well, sit down and get comfy, we are going to be here for a while…

PraetorianGourd 5y ago

Publishing the story is itself an editorial decision.

nathanaldensr 5y ago
Are you asking for self-censorship of facts?
- trobertson 5y ago
  From the GP: > Two people having breakthrough infections for any variant is not at all unlikely The point is that this fact isn't newsworthy... unless Reuters is running an agenda. This article is blatant fearmongering.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    News is a two way street. People want to stay informed about Coronavirus, Reuters is happy to run stories on the topic. They've probably got a few editors focused on the topic, and maybe today was what you might call a "slow news day" in the industry. You can't stand in front of the firehose and complain about being wet though.
    - PraetorianGourd 5y ago
      I most certainly can when the person operating the firehose does so under the guise of professional standards where they claim to only use their granted powers to inform, not to convince or persuade. Reuters isn’t like CNN or Fox who hide their prime time talking heads behind some technicality of “entertainment vs news”. Reuters claims to be news, full stop. If they live by that sword they better be prepared to be judged by that sword
  - native_samples 5y ago
    Of course it's news. Governments are massively ramping up booster programmes specifically because of Omicron, and here are two doctors at the very same hospital who had it despite having had three shots. Note these are not "two random doctors separated in time by a large amount", they're two doctors who work together. Conclusion: booster shots do not stop people getting it or getting infected. People flagging this thread are in denial. This is an event of direct relevance to the justification for government policies affecting billions of people, that's why Reuters considers it newsworthy.
    - seba_dos1 5y ago
      > Conclusion: booster shots do not stop people getting it or getting infected. ...and that's a non-news. We know that, we didn't expect anything else for a long time now since it's also true for other variants. Booster policies were made with that information already taken into account.
      - native_samples 5y ago
        A whole lot of people don't realize that. BBC News quoted just a few days ago someone saying that vaccine passports made her feel safe, because she knows everyone is tested, recovered or vaccinated. The fact that she can still get COVID from other vaccinated people hadn't registered and the BBC didn't bother pointing it out.
    - daveguy 5y ago
      Two examples is not remotely proof that "booster shots do not stop people getting it or getting infected." Stop pushing this agenda. It is ignorant and false.
      - new_realist 5y ago
        It is an existence proof of two. People, in this case two people, did get it.
        5y ago
- dwaltrip 5y ago
  You want to hear all of the facts? Well, sit down and get comfy, we are going to be here for a while…