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Amazon FSx for OpenZFS

34 points by LukeLambert 5y ago

surye 5y ago
Since the abstraction is NFS for access, I wonder what the advantage over EFS is. Or more, why not just leverage this under EFS if it was a straight improvement. Compression and snapshots seem like some of the biggest wins over current EFS.
- pram 5y ago
  EFS performance is garbage compared to FSx for most things. They serve different purposes.
- STRML 5y ago
  Compression and snapshots indeed are the largest improvements I see, as well as an order-of-magnitude higher performance. If your applications already rely on ZFS snapshots, filesystems, quotas, reservations, compression, etc. - this is a pretty huge release as it appears to enable a convenient multi-reader workflow without significant administration headaches.
chaddasaurus 5y ago
Wow, OpenZFS in the cloud. Corey Quinn just called it the best launch at reInvent! https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig/status/1465834063877443584?s=20 https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig/status/1465834063877443584?s=2...
- nix23 5y ago
  Sure a shill would say that: lastweekinaws.com
HNTA_1 5y ago
Was super excited at first, but then saw it's NFS access only. I don't see any options to do "zfs send" to ship entire encrypted datasets over.
- thrtythreeforty 5y ago
  Right, none of the people that specifically picked ZFS are gonna be in love with this. It feels to me like there's space for a service that acts like `zfs recv` but backs it with super cheap Backblaze or Glacier storage. Which, I know you can just zfs send to a file, but then restoring a single file is a pain.
PostThisTooFast 5y ago
Remember folks, ZFS is Apple's new filesystem. OH WAIT
ksec 5y ago
>FSx for OpenZFS is powered by the AWS Graviton family processors and AWS SRD (Scalable Reliable Datagram) Networking, This is Amazon owning the whole Stack. The pace of innovation at AWS Scale is insane. And quite scary.
topspin 5y ago
While looking into this new OpenZFS service I noticed that NetApp ONTAP is now also available as 'Amazon FSx for ONTAP' as of Sept. 2021. It costs more than this OpenZFS service, but it offers higher availability and more capabilities (iSCSI block devices, for instance.)

34 points by LukeLambert 5y ago

Since the abstraction is NFS for access, I wonder what the advantage over EFS is. Or more, why not just leverage this under EFS if it was a straight improvement. Compression and snapshots seem like some of the biggest wins over current EFS.

pram 5y ago
EFS performance is garbage compared to FSx for most things. They serve different purposes.
STRML 5y ago
Compression and snapshots indeed are the largest improvements I see, as well as an order-of-magnitude higher performance. If your applications already rely on ZFS snapshots, filesystems, quotas, reservations, compression, etc. - this is a pretty huge release as it appears to enable a convenient multi-reader workflow without significant administration headaches.

chaddasaurus 5y ago

Wow, OpenZFS in the cloud. Corey Quinn just called it the best launch at reInvent! https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig/status/1465834063877443584?s=20 https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig/status/1465834063877443584?s=2...

nix23 5y ago
Sure a shill would say that: lastweekinaws.com

HNTA_1 5y ago

Was super excited at first, but then saw it's NFS access only. I don't see any options to do "zfs send" to ship entire encrypted datasets over.

thrtythreeforty 5y ago
Right, none of the people that specifically picked ZFS are gonna be in love with this. It feels to me like there's space for a service that acts like `zfs recv` but backs it with super cheap Backblaze or Glacier storage. Which, I know you can just zfs send to a file, but then restoring a single file is a pain.

PostThisTooFast 5y ago

Remember folks, ZFS is Apple's new filesystem. OH WAIT

ksec 5y ago

>FSx for OpenZFS is powered by the AWS Graviton family processors and AWS SRD (Scalable Reliable Datagram) Networking, This is Amazon owning the whole Stack. The pace of innovation at AWS Scale is insane. And quite scary.

topspin 5y ago

While looking into this new OpenZFS service I noticed that NetApp ONTAP is now also available as 'Amazon FSx for ONTAP' as of Sept. 2021. It costs more than this OpenZFS service, but it offers higher availability and more capabilities (iSCSI block devices, for instance.)