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>I wish there was a better way to inject free market competition into the government it's called immigration, people move to states/nations with the best funct

>I wish there was a better way to inject free market competition into the government it's called immigration, people move to states/nations with the best functioning governments if they are allowed free movement. Historically voting with your feet has been the best way to change government. See Illinois and it's massive budget shortfall due to people leaving the state also look at the Soviet Union which needed border security to keep people IN. The exact opposite situation that the US has, which is that millions of people want to live here through any means necessary

waz0wski 5y ago
In my cynical view within the US, it's often more like locusts destroying their environment and moving on e.g. the Californian exodus to other western states that is negatively regarded by most people born & raised in those states. People vote for crap politicians and policies that lead to issues noted in the OP, then go somewhere else and do it again - watching it first-hand in my state over the past decade.
tiernano 5y ago
> See Illinois and it's massive budget shortfall due to people leaving the state Does this really make them think of changing stuff, or will they just increase taxes and try get more money? I mean, most governments will do the latter before fixing the issue (they don't want to admit the issue is with them...) [NOTE] not a US citizen, so cant don't know much about US politics
- OldHand2018 5y ago
  Illinois budget problems are due primarily to pension promises made decades ago. The current state government is reasonably well run, for the most part. If you look at the 2020 Census data, the Chicago metro area grew slightly while the rural areas and small towns lost population. The state saw a growth in high earners that pay lots of taxes, and a loss in lower income folks that pay relatively low taxes. Since you mention politics: Illinois will send 1 fewer person to the US Congress next year. Currently, there are 13 Democrats and 5 Republicans from Illinois. After the elections next year, there are almost certainly going to be 14 Democrats and 3 Republicans. Knowing that might help understand some of the criticism…

waz0wski 5y ago

In my cynical view within the US, it's often more like locusts destroying their environment and moving on e.g. the Californian exodus to other western states that is negatively regarded by most people born & raised in those states. People vote for crap politicians and policies that lead to issues noted in the OP, then go somewhere else and do it again - watching it first-hand in my state over the past decade.

tiernano 5y ago

> See Illinois and it's massive budget shortfall due to people leaving the state Does this really make them think of changing stuff, or will they just increase taxes and try get more money? I mean, most governments will do the latter before fixing the issue (they don't want to admit the issue is with them...) [NOTE] not a US citizen, so cant don't know much about US politics

OldHand2018 5y ago
Illinois budget problems are due primarily to pension promises made decades ago. The current state government is reasonably well run, for the most part. If you look at the 2020 Census data, the Chicago metro area grew slightly while the rural areas and small towns lost population. The state saw a growth in high earners that pay lots of taxes, and a loss in lower income folks that pay relatively low taxes. Since you mention politics: Illinois will send 1 fewer person to the US Congress next year. Currently, there are 13 Democrats and 5 Republicans from Illinois. After the elections next year, there are almost certainly going to be 14 Democrats and 3 Republicans. Knowing that might help understand some of the criticism…