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The official line right now is that the legal team at Google is aware of the situation and is taking a look. Yay legal!

by litewulf 18y ago

thalur 18y ago
Taking a look at what? All this lovely new data they can use to make money? :p
Agathos 18y ago
And where were they when this was written in the first place?
- misterbwong 18y ago
  My guess would be that this EULA was derived from a boilerplate Google EULA with a search/replace done on it. Apparently, it's very similar to the Google Docs EULA.
  - jsmcgd 18y ago
    Google own all my google docs?
    - boredguy8 18y ago
      Read before you freak. Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content (whether those rights happen to be registered or not, and wherever in the world those rights may exist). Unless you have agreed otherwise in writing with Google, you agree that you are responsible for protecting and enforcing those rights and that Google has no obligation to do so on your behalf. 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
      - spon 18y ago
        Google allows you to retain copyright over your content. That's great. So if you send a copy of your manuscript to your publisher using Chrome, you technically will always be "the owner." You can still earn royalties from your content, and enter into contracts with publishers or other parties that want to license your content. But Google will still have a "perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through" the browser. Usually, when we own rights to something, it gives us the power to do all those things without being bothered by someone else. So in layman's terms, this essentially makes them "co-owner" of your content. They can license it to others, collect revenues (albeit not technically "royalties") from its sale, copy it at will, alter it at will. They don't have to have your permission to do any of this. And that's just the intellectual property side. Forget about privacy with regard to your personal life or with regard to trade secrets.
        boredguy8 18y ago
        They actually don't have the rights to license it to others. They're not co-owners, nor do they pretend to be, hence "You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services." But their license justly protects them from being sued because you uploaded a video to YouTube that became a hit, and then you decide you want to sue them because they're hosting a video you submitted but now want to charge people for. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
        spon 18y ago
        According to the Terms, Google has the right to "publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute," your book. They also have the right to "make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships." Licensing by any other name.
        jodrellblank 18y ago
        They do have to have your permission to do any of that - you have to agree to the EULA.
  - litewulf 18y ago
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html I think its semi-official. So you are right :) A cookie for you sir!
- Dauntless 18y ago
  I guess it was just to test if anyone cares. I still don't think they will change anything because that's what they are aiming for, information control.
enomar 18y ago
Here's a quote from their legal team... "In order to keep things simple for our users, we try to use the same set of legal terms (our Universal Terms of Service) for many of our products. Sometimes, as in the case of Google Chrome, this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don't apply well to the use of that product. We are working quickly to remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of service. This change will apply retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome." Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome
- boredguy8 18y ago
  Link? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html

The official line right now is that the legal team at Google is aware of the situation and is taking a look. Yay legal!

thalur 18y ago

Taking a look at what? All this lovely new data they can use to make money? :p

Agathos 18y ago

And where were they when this was written in the first place?

misterbwong 18y ago
My guess would be that this EULA was derived from a boilerplate Google EULA with a search/replace done on it. Apparently, it's very similar to the Google Docs EULA.
- jsmcgd 18y ago
  Google own all my google docs?
  - boredguy8 18y ago
    Read before you freak. Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content (whether those rights happen to be registered or not, and wherever in the world those rights may exist). Unless you have agreed otherwise in writing with Google, you agree that you are responsible for protecting and enforcing those rights and that Google has no obligation to do so on your behalf. 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
    - spon 18y ago
      Google allows you to retain copyright over your content. That's great. So if you send a copy of your manuscript to your publisher using Chrome, you technically will always be "the owner." You can still earn royalties from your content, and enter into contracts with publishers or other parties that want to license your content. But Google will still have a "perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through" the browser. Usually, when we own rights to something, it gives us the power to do all those things without being bothered by someone else. So in layman's terms, this essentially makes them "co-owner" of your content. They can license it to others, collect revenues (albeit not technically "royalties") from its sale, copy it at will, alter it at will. They don't have to have your permission to do any of this. And that's just the intellectual property side. Forget about privacy with regard to your personal life or with regard to trade secrets.
      - boredguy8 18y ago
        They actually don't have the rights to license it to others. They're not co-owners, nor do they pretend to be, hence "You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services." But their license justly protects them from being sued because you uploaded a video to YouTube that became a hit, and then you decide you want to sue them because they're hosting a video you submitted but now want to charge people for. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
        spon 18y ago
        According to the Terms, Google has the right to "publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute," your book. They also have the right to "make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships." Licensing by any other name.
      - jodrellblank 18y ago
        They do have to have your permission to do any of that - you have to agree to the EULA.
- litewulf 18y ago
  http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html I think its semi-official. So you are right :) A cookie for you sir!
Dauntless 18y ago
I guess it was just to test if anyone cares. I still don't think they will change anything because that's what they are aiming for, information control.

enomar 18y ago

Here's a quote from their legal team... "In order to keep things simple for our users, we try to use the same set of legal terms (our Universal Terms of Service) for many of our products. Sometimes, as in the case of Google Chrome, this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don't apply well to the use of that product. We are working quickly to remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of service. This change will apply retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome." Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome

boredguy8 18y ago
Link? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html