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Please excuse my vast ignorance but wouldn't Tesla, Uber or whomever need to deploy a massive network of 5g towers for that? Or is more that Tesla/Uber/etc coul

Please excuse my vast ignorance but wouldn't Tesla, Uber or whomever need to deploy a massive network of 5g towers for that? Or is more that Tesla/Uber/etc could much more easily become an MVNO-like-provider because of network slicing?

spookthesunset 5y ago
For those at home reading this... MVNO = "Mobile Virtual Network Operator". Aka a network that doesn't have its own wireless infrastructure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operato...
WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
The second comment. The telecoms via 5G have been positioning themselves to rent their infrastructure on-demand. The AWS partnership is this but Amazon then re-extending it to developers on their platform as part of their "Cloud" offerings. I doubt Amazon has many towers of their own here and are almost entirely through one of the telecoms.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  But this doesn't use telco towers? Amazon is literally selling antenae.
- thrashh 5y ago
  Isn’t this service nothing related to using existing infrastructure? It looks like Amazon is sending you base stations to set up a private network in one location.
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- ineedasername 5y ago
  >I doubt Amazon has many towers of their own Their offering page specifically says that AWS "delivers your network hardware (small cell radio base-station and servers) Attach power and internet connectivity to smart cells and servers" They are not using telco partnerships here, or at least if they are, it's not on the level of carving out a chunk of the telco network for private use. I struggle to see how this remains a "cloud" offering rather than a hardware rental.
- hadlock 5y ago
  I think this is more like long haul wifi for your corporate campus, factory, port, university etc. Maybe even for things like parking meters (san francisco's parking meters are famously being updated/upgraded because they're ending EDGE network used by the modems in the parking meters)
foolfoolz 5y ago
at this point these are 2 sides of telecom have nearly evolved to completely separate industries one services towers on the ground. base stations. maintenance. physical network deployment the other is the services of running the network. roaming agreements. customer management. internet breakout tesla and other vehicle makers may see value owning the service side but very unlikely they want to maintain a network

spookthesunset 5y ago

For those at home reading this... MVNO = "Mobile Virtual Network Operator". Aka a network that doesn't have its own wireless infrastructure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operato...

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago

The second comment. The telecoms via 5G have been positioning themselves to rent their infrastructure on-demand. The AWS partnership is this but Amazon then re-extending it to developers on their platform as part of their "Cloud" offerings. I doubt Amazon has many towers of their own here and are almost entirely through one of the telecoms.

vineyardmike 5y ago
But this doesn't use telco towers? Amazon is literally selling antenae.
thrashh 5y ago
Isn’t this service nothing related to using existing infrastructure? It looks like Amazon is sending you base stations to set up a private network in one location.
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ineedasername 5y ago
>I doubt Amazon has many towers of their own Their offering page specifically says that AWS "delivers your network hardware (small cell radio base-station and servers) Attach power and internet connectivity to smart cells and servers" They are not using telco partnerships here, or at least if they are, it's not on the level of carving out a chunk of the telco network for private use. I struggle to see how this remains a "cloud" offering rather than a hardware rental.
hadlock 5y ago
I think this is more like long haul wifi for your corporate campus, factory, port, university etc. Maybe even for things like parking meters (san francisco's parking meters are famously being updated/upgraded because they're ending EDGE network used by the modems in the parking meters)

foolfoolz 5y ago

at this point these are 2 sides of telecom have nearly evolved to completely separate industries one services towers on the ground. base stations. maintenance. physical network deployment the other is the services of running the network. roaming agreements. customer management. internet breakout tesla and other vehicle makers may see value owning the service side but very unlikely they want to maintain a network