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Many institutions the US was known for has suffered the same fate in the last fifty-something years. "Make America Great Again" refers to how beloved our instit

by fundad 5y ago

Many institutions the US was known for has suffered the same fate in the last fifty-something years. "Make America Great Again" refers to how beloved our institutions were. They see Civil Rights as our nation's weakness, holding us back from greatness.

zdragnar 5y ago
> "Make America Great Again" That is just patently wrong. It was a reaction to the previous administration's foreign policy strategy, which was to position America as less of a world leader and more of a partner. Conservatives frequently criticized one of President Obama's early trips as an "apology tour", and were incensed when he appeared to bow to the Saudi king. Also, they disliked the domestic policies which had a socialized feel. It literally had nothing to do with the civil rights movement.
- nfd 5y ago
  > It was a reaction to the previous administration's foreign policy strategy, which was to position America as less of a world leader and more of a partner. Happen to know of any direct discussion of this being the intent behind that slogan from the Trump administration? Especially from Trump himself?
  - zdragnar 5y ago
    Yeah, I called to confirm with him right around the time he signed the First Steps act. If you don't trust me, a quick google search yields tons of results: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-came-up-with-make-america-great-again/2017/01/17/fb6acf5e-dbf7-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-cam... Quote: “I felt that jobs were hurting,” he said. “I looked at the many types of illness our country had, and whether it’s at the border, whether it’s security, whether it’s law and order or lack of law and order. Then, of course, you get to trade, and I said to myself, ‘What would be good?’ I was sitting at my desk, where I am right now, and I said, ‘Make America Great Again.’ ” Security and trade would be the foreign policy bits that he felt we were far too weak on.
esarbe 5y ago
That's just ridiculous. "Make America Great Again" doesn't reference anything in particular. It is just a catch-all phrase that captures the emotions of nostalgia, a remembrance of a better place that never was. But - as you aptly demonstrate - it lends itself perfectly to project onto anything anyone could imagine and it is ambiguous enough to be applicable for pretty much everything. That's why it's a actually a pretty good slogan.

by fundad 5y ago

zdragnar 5y ago

> "Make America Great Again" That is just patently wrong. It was a reaction to the previous administration's foreign policy strategy, which was to position America as less of a world leader and more of a partner. Conservatives frequently criticized one of President Obama's early trips as an "apology tour", and were incensed when he appeared to bow to the Saudi king. Also, they disliked the domestic policies which had a socialized feel. It literally had nothing to do with the civil rights movement.

nfd 5y ago
> It was a reaction to the previous administration's foreign policy strategy, which was to position America as less of a world leader and more of a partner. Happen to know of any direct discussion of this being the intent behind that slogan from the Trump administration? Especially from Trump himself?
- zdragnar 5y ago
  Yeah, I called to confirm with him right around the time he signed the First Steps act. If you don't trust me, a quick google search yields tons of results: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-came-up-with-make-america-great-again/2017/01/17/fb6acf5e-dbf7-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-cam... Quote: “I felt that jobs were hurting,” he said. “I looked at the many types of illness our country had, and whether it’s at the border, whether it’s security, whether it’s law and order or lack of law and order. Then, of course, you get to trade, and I said to myself, ‘What would be good?’ I was sitting at my desk, where I am right now, and I said, ‘Make America Great Again.’ ” Security and trade would be the foreign policy bits that he felt we were far too weak on.

esarbe 5y ago

That's just ridiculous. "Make America Great Again" doesn't reference anything in particular. It is just a catch-all phrase that captures the emotions of nostalgia, a remembrance of a better place that never was. But - as you aptly demonstrate - it lends itself perfectly to project onto anything anyone could imagine and it is ambiguous enough to be applicable for pretty much everything. That's why it's a actually a pretty good slogan.