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Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Ki

Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements. Why not doing that with Smart TVs?

vxNsr 5y ago
> But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements. Amazon regretted that pretty soon after they did it, people hacked their kindles to be hotspots and it became an arms race amazon didn't wanna play.
- jjoonathan 5y ago
  Was that a big problem? I thought it was a single-intern sized problem.
  - kfarr 5y ago
    Yeah tbh not hard to search for high bandwidth users abusing system and dealing with it on a case by case basis
- cptskippy 5y ago
  5G E2E Slicing will prevent such scenarios. The SIM will be bound to a network slice and restrictions will be dictated by the carrier.
Turing_Machine 5y ago
> Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? Unless I'm misunderstanding how this works, it wouldn't need a base station in your home, just a commodity cellular modem with a network-specific SIM, and an uplink tower somewhere within range.
- jareklupinski 5y ago
  yup, the only thing in the past that was keeping companies from popping a sim into every product to report back home (above a certain price) was that there was nothing stopping you from pulling the sim and just using their plan in other devices, at least for a short while until the company realized what was up (if they cared to check (they usually didnt)) now they have complete control over the end-to-end, and can cheaply provision sims that only talk to their local tower for example, and reject non-company provisioned IMEI (if they need it anymore?) etc working on building blocking for this :)
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vishnugupta 5y ago
> how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? The TV company will deploy base station(s) in my town. Embed SIM cards in TVs they ship. No need to connect to my home WiFi to send personalised data back to their servers, or to upgrade firmware etc.,
- judge2020 5y ago
  DirecTV already does this for their 'wireless' offering - you get a huge LTE modem and a bunch of receivers with sim cards in them.
- tenebrisalietum 5y ago
  It may interest you to know ATSC 3.0 has specifications for a "return path" to the broadcast station in it.

vxNsr 5y ago

> But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements. Amazon regretted that pretty soon after they did it, people hacked their kindles to be hotspots and it became an arms race amazon didn't wanna play.

jjoonathan 5y ago
Was that a big problem? I thought it was a single-intern sized problem.
- kfarr 5y ago
  Yeah tbh not hard to search for high bandwidth users abusing system and dealing with it on a case by case basis
cptskippy 5y ago
5G E2E Slicing will prevent such scenarios. The SIM will be bound to a network slice and restrictions will be dictated by the carrier.

Turing_Machine 5y ago

> Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? Unless I'm misunderstanding how this works, it wouldn't need a base station in your home, just a commodity cellular modem with a network-specific SIM, and an uplink tower somewhere within range.

jareklupinski 5y ago
yup, the only thing in the past that was keeping companies from popping a sim into every product to report back home (above a certain price) was that there was nothing stopping you from pulling the sim and just using their plan in other devices, at least for a short while until the company realized what was up (if they cared to check (they usually didnt)) now they have complete control over the end-to-end, and can cheaply provision sims that only talk to their local tower for example, and reject non-company provisioned IMEI (if they need it anymore?) etc working on building blocking for this :)
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vishnugupta 5y ago

> how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? The TV company will deploy base station(s) in my town. Embed SIM cards in TVs they ship. No need to connect to my home WiFi to send personalised data back to their servers, or to upgrade firmware etc.,

judge2020 5y ago
DirecTV already does this for their 'wireless' offering - you get a huge LTE modem and a bunch of receivers with sim cards in them.
tenebrisalietum 5y ago
It may interest you to know ATSC 3.0 has specifications for a "return path" to the broadcast station in it.