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Or, maybe.... just maybe... both businesses and governments consider and prioritize the humans in the equation.

by actually_a_dog 5y ago

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Pxtl 5y ago
Businesses that don't prioritize winning in the market will be outperformed by businesses that do. Let the government do the job of setting the boundaries on the market so they can do what's best for humans, and let businesses do the job of optimizing for victory within the market. That's where their respective incentives lie, so that's what they do best at. tl:dr; don't hate the player, hate the game.
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- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  Ok. That's what your economics textbook thinks. What do you think? Competition is not the only way to get things done. Humans are definitely capable of collective action. You may recall a few weeks ago where hundreds of millions of Americans just said "fuck 2 AM, it's now 1 AM" early one Sunday. How would you harness that?
  - Pxtl 5y ago
    Those millions of Americans followed rules set by the government. That the game. Make the rules do useful things. If you want business with social conscience, legislate it; don't whine for the uncaring hand of the free market to deign to suddenly show empathy.
    - actually_a_dog 5y ago
      Hey, here's a thought: why don't we get rid of such dehumanizing institutions and everybody just get along? How about we not commodify every single aspect of human existence, from birth to death? How would you accomplish that?
      - lotsofpulp 5y ago
        I do not know how, hence needing a government to enforce rules.
        actually_a_dog 5y ago
        How would you accomplish it using government as a tool? It's clear that most (all?) current governments are wholly inadequate to this task. What are the right rules, and how can government help the situation? What does society look like when you implement those rules and enforcement mechanisms?

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Or, maybe.... just maybe... both businesses and governments consider and prioritize the humans in the equation.

by actually_a_dog 5y ago

Or, maybe.... just maybe... both businesses and governments consider and prioritize the humans in the equation.

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Pxtl 5y ago
Businesses that don't prioritize winning in the market will be outperformed by businesses that do. Let the government do the job of setting the boundaries on the market so they can do what's best for humans, and let businesses do the job of optimizing for victory within the market. That's where their respective incentives lie, so that's what they do best at. tl:dr; don't hate the player, hate the game.
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- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  Ok. That's what your economics textbook thinks. What do you think? Competition is not the only way to get things done. Humans are definitely capable of collective action. You may recall a few weeks ago where hundreds of millions of Americans just said "fuck 2 AM, it's now 1 AM" early one Sunday. How would you harness that?
  - Pxtl 5y ago
    Those millions of Americans followed rules set by the government. That the game. Make the rules do useful things. If you want business with social conscience, legislate it; don't whine for the uncaring hand of the free market to deign to suddenly show empathy.
    - actually_a_dog 5y ago
      Hey, here's a thought: why don't we get rid of such dehumanizing institutions and everybody just get along? How about we not commodify every single aspect of human existence, from birth to death? How would you accomplish that?
      - lotsofpulp 5y ago
        I do not know how, hence needing a government to enforce rules.
        actually_a_dog 5y ago
        How would you accomplish it using government as a tool? It's clear that most (all?) current governments are wholly inadequate to this task. What are the right rules, and how can government help the situation? What does society look like when you implement those rules and enforcement mechanisms?