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Twitter is already on a downward swing. The Hunter Biden laptop from hell is a good example of the platform no longer being the place for breaking news, info an

by ipspam 5y ago

Twitter is already on a downward swing. The Hunter Biden laptop from hell is a good example of the platform no longer being the place for breaking news, info and insights. Nevermind that they got it wrong, that was always by design. This is by design as well. Guess what? There will be MORE Hunter Biden laptop drama this weekend. Now, I agree it's petty and pedantic to talk about censorship in the context of this laptop, but it's also a political culture flashpoint. I can't see myself going to twitter much if they seriously implement this. Everyone under the sun that did something wrong or relevant to public discourse will have all info and links to said exposing content banned. Twitter will be consigned to the wastebin of normies circle jerking themselves off with progressive narratives and no pushback. Like Reddit.

sysOpOpPERAND 5y ago
reddit is fairly terrible. youtube has removed the dislike button which seems like indirect censorship. any company that allows one segment of people to voice their opinion while another segment cannot ought to come with a warning label. example: "warning this website is a media company that is biased towards left/right ideologies" not even joking
amanaplanacanal 5y ago
Have you found another platform that better represents your interests?
- a45a33s 5y ago
  what did you mean by this? no complaining allowed?
- ipspam 5y ago
  No. But like streaming services, I'm happy to use 2 or 3 to accomplish the goal. Gab is great, under the radar it has been flying along and getting better and better. It has Milo and other banned characters that are worth the price of admission. It is surprisingly not toxic and not virtuous. Any off topic groups like meat eaters or homesteading or parenting etc are really good. For politics and realted things it definitely has a bent, but I'm ok with that. Eventually the left will get bored of their own creations and slowly spread out. A legit app store app would make it a legit competitor. There are so many banned people. Paul Sperry. Alex Jones. Milo. Vox Day. Any one of these is worth joining for.
  - keyrat 5y ago
    I'm surprised given what you've written that you're still interested in celebrity opinion.
    - ipspam 5y ago
      I don't doubt that they like the notoriety. But I would call them artists before I would call them celebrities. Unique artists doing unique things from unique perspectives. Milo is a gay christian master troll leading a religious crusade in the modern world through trolling and shocking and mocking. He is effective because he knows his enemy inside and out. He's been on both sides of the aisle. It's delightful to watch. I find these people highly original and good at what they do. They are also all, in my opinion, intellectuals, knowing their opponents well. Milo didnt become the ultimate troll not reading the Bible and philosophy and culture and studying their intersectionality. Alex Jones didn't become who he is by not reading millions of pages of conspiracy documents and doing crazy outrageous journalist activisism (while having mental illness run in the family). Vox Day created a book publishing company that represents everything progressives hate and have tried to kill. He is on a one man mission to reinvigorate books in the classic tradition of archetypal storylines rather than new age race and gender and earth harmony/disaster storylines. Paul Sperry is just a wonderful reporter that pulls big stories at big times, though he is a little obscure. I think this is one of his best scoops. He broke a lot of news in this one article and blew open the case for Vindman being the whistleblower. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/... That's why I'm interested in these people. Not because of some vapid celebrity, but because they stand out and in this sanitized narrated world where thoughts are highly fought over and controlled.
      - skinnymuch 5y ago
        People who like celebrities have similar praises for them. Calling celebs artists or similar things is one of the most common occurrences. This seems like you like these celebs like any one likes “vapid celebs” but because of the persistent push of these sort of folk to seem so intellectual (but not elite), things have to be spun like being called artists vs celebs to keep the narrative and celebrity going.
perl4ever 5y ago
>The Hunter Biden laptop from hell >the wastebin of normies circle jerking themselves off with progressive narratives and no pushback So, why aren't you using a six word phrase that expresses why "normies" should care about the laptop, instead of a tag that only communicates to the already initiated? I think this may be more of an impediment than "censorship". Also, it would help to put it in context with Hillary's emails. I've forgotten why those mattered.
- ipspam 5y ago
  Hilary Clinton had a private email server. She got shit for it. She deleted the emails so noone could read them. In order to cover up her transgressions, she accused her political opponent of doing exactly what she was doing: colluding through secret internet communications for nefarious purposes. She spent millions of dollars through several cutouts that John Durham is investigating. She colluded with the Russians to frame Trump for colluding with the Russians. She got her revenge and special council against him. Meanwhile, a disgruntled staffer likely stole DNC "stuff" and maybe fed it to WikiLeaks. The DNC knew. In order to combat this knowing it would drop as an October surprise, they made a fake hacking claim up and blamed it on the Russians. Confused? Hilary colluded with Russians while blaming Russians and Trump? Yep. And the emails are important because they would have shown the same level of corruption seen in hunter Biden's emails. Hunter Biden's laptop was soaked with liquid while hunter was doing drugs. He took it to be repaired and never picked it up. The repair shop was owed compensation, and eventually the laptop became that compensation. Legally. In order to counter the heat about Joe Biden and Hunter Bidens shady business dealing in Ukraine, they accused their opponents of shady dealing in the Ukraine. This was the impeachment scandal that revolved around Colonel Vindmans "whistleblower" complaint. They tainted the waters so greatly with politics that there was no way to wade through the mess and hold Hunter or Joe to account. They accused Trump of their corruption in Ukraine. The playbook is accuse your opponents of your crimes.
  - perl4ever 5y ago
    >they would have shown the same level of corruption Would have? Meaning the emails were not released? >colluded with Russians >the same level of corruption >shady business dealing >tainted the waters so greatly with politics >their corruption in Ukraine These are all perfectly generic accusations. My point is, you need a sound bite or slogan that is not generic. That evokes something specific, and a context. If you don't care, why bother saying anything? >The playbook is accuse your opponents of your crimes. Yes, it is. How do you, and how should we, tell the difference between two sides accusing each other in similar terms?

by ipspam 5y ago

sysOpOpPERAND 5y ago

reddit is fairly terrible. youtube has removed the dislike button which seems like indirect censorship. any company that allows one segment of people to voice their opinion while another segment cannot ought to come with a warning label. example: "warning this website is a media company that is biased towards left/right ideologies" not even joking

amanaplanacanal 5y ago

Have you found another platform that better represents your interests?

a45a33s 5y ago
what did you mean by this? no complaining allowed?
ipspam 5y ago
No. But like streaming services, I'm happy to use 2 or 3 to accomplish the goal. Gab is great, under the radar it has been flying along and getting better and better. It has Milo and other banned characters that are worth the price of admission. It is surprisingly not toxic and not virtuous. Any off topic groups like meat eaters or homesteading or parenting etc are really good. For politics and realted things it definitely has a bent, but I'm ok with that. Eventually the left will get bored of their own creations and slowly spread out. A legit app store app would make it a legit competitor. There are so many banned people. Paul Sperry. Alex Jones. Milo. Vox Day. Any one of these is worth joining for.
- keyrat 5y ago
  I'm surprised given what you've written that you're still interested in celebrity opinion.
  - ipspam 5y ago
    I don't doubt that they like the notoriety. But I would call them artists before I would call them celebrities. Unique artists doing unique things from unique perspectives. Milo is a gay christian master troll leading a religious crusade in the modern world through trolling and shocking and mocking. He is effective because he knows his enemy inside and out. He's been on both sides of the aisle. It's delightful to watch. I find these people highly original and good at what they do. They are also all, in my opinion, intellectuals, knowing their opponents well. Milo didnt become the ultimate troll not reading the Bible and philosophy and culture and studying their intersectionality. Alex Jones didn't become who he is by not reading millions of pages of conspiracy documents and doing crazy outrageous journalist activisism (while having mental illness run in the family). Vox Day created a book publishing company that represents everything progressives hate and have tried to kill. He is on a one man mission to reinvigorate books in the classic tradition of archetypal storylines rather than new age race and gender and earth harmony/disaster storylines. Paul Sperry is just a wonderful reporter that pulls big stories at big times, though he is a little obscure. I think this is one of his best scoops. He broke a lot of news in this one article and blew open the case for Vindman being the whistleblower. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/... That's why I'm interested in these people. Not because of some vapid celebrity, but because they stand out and in this sanitized narrated world where thoughts are highly fought over and controlled.
    - skinnymuch 5y ago
      People who like celebrities have similar praises for them. Calling celebs artists or similar things is one of the most common occurrences. This seems like you like these celebs like any one likes “vapid celebs” but because of the persistent push of these sort of folk to seem so intellectual (but not elite), things have to be spun like being called artists vs celebs to keep the narrative and celebrity going.

perl4ever 5y ago

>The Hunter Biden laptop from hell >the wastebin of normies circle jerking themselves off with progressive narratives and no pushback So, why aren't you using a six word phrase that expresses why "normies" should care about the laptop, instead of a tag that only communicates to the already initiated? I think this may be more of an impediment than "censorship". Also, it would help to put it in context with Hillary's emails. I've forgotten why those mattered.

ipspam 5y ago
Hilary Clinton had a private email server. She got shit for it. She deleted the emails so noone could read them. In order to cover up her transgressions, she accused her political opponent of doing exactly what she was doing: colluding through secret internet communications for nefarious purposes. She spent millions of dollars through several cutouts that John Durham is investigating. She colluded with the Russians to frame Trump for colluding with the Russians. She got her revenge and special council against him. Meanwhile, a disgruntled staffer likely stole DNC "stuff" and maybe fed it to WikiLeaks. The DNC knew. In order to combat this knowing it would drop as an October surprise, they made a fake hacking claim up and blamed it on the Russians. Confused? Hilary colluded with Russians while blaming Russians and Trump? Yep. And the emails are important because they would have shown the same level of corruption seen in hunter Biden's emails. Hunter Biden's laptop was soaked with liquid while hunter was doing drugs. He took it to be repaired and never picked it up. The repair shop was owed compensation, and eventually the laptop became that compensation. Legally. In order to counter the heat about Joe Biden and Hunter Bidens shady business dealing in Ukraine, they accused their opponents of shady dealing in the Ukraine. This was the impeachment scandal that revolved around Colonel Vindmans "whistleblower" complaint. They tainted the waters so greatly with politics that there was no way to wade through the mess and hold Hunter or Joe to account. They accused Trump of their corruption in Ukraine. The playbook is accuse your opponents of your crimes.
- perl4ever 5y ago
  >they would have shown the same level of corruption Would have? Meaning the emails were not released? >colluded with Russians >the same level of corruption >shady business dealing >tainted the waters so greatly with politics >their corruption in Ukraine These are all perfectly generic accusations. My point is, you need a sound bite or slogan that is not generic. That evokes something specific, and a context. If you don't care, why bother saying anything? >The playbook is accuse your opponents of your crimes. Yes, it is. How do you, and how should we, tell the difference between two sides accusing each other in similar terms?