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Agreed, I just don't see it. Subscriber counts for a handful of subscription companies: Netflix: 209M Amazon Prime: 200M Spotify: 165M Disney+: 118M

Agreed, I just don't see it. Subscriber counts for a handful of subscription companies: Netflix: 209M Amazon Prime: 200M Spotify: 165M Disney+: 118M Youtube Premium/Music: 50M Hulu: 44M Charter: 30M NY Times: 8M WaPo: 3M

YetAnotherNick 5y ago
Except for youtube premium you don't have any alternative for the sites available for free. For twitter there is sea of alternatives that does the exact same thing.
- tomnipotent 5y ago
  > there is sea of alternatives None of them even remotely have Twitter's reach, and more importantly content creators ranging from heads of state to Nobel Prize winners to A-list celebrities.
  - brianwawok 5y ago
    Right, but people are not paying $4 to read this. At least 99% of the market would drop off. I literally just log on to see what hilarious things papa elon tweet, without it I would just... do something better with my time.
  - logifail 5y ago
    > heads of state to Nobel Prize winners to A-list celebrities I'm reminded of my OH's retort to someone reportedly claiming fluency in multiple languages, "Great, but do they have anything interesting to say in any of them?" I'm just not interested in Twitter as a source of information. For me, it's a last-ditch-saloon means to complain to companies who can't or won't publish a customer services email address. That's all.
    - Closi 5y ago
      Absolutely agreed - what’s the thing in common all the listed ‘paid for’ subscriptions have? Good quality content. What’s twitters general concept? 140 word tweets that are intended to have very little thought go into them in general. That to me is poor quality content.
      - vineyardmike 5y ago
        > That to me is poor quality content. Yet many people pay for the twitter API data stream already.
    - colinmhayes 5y ago
      Twitter is the first place every piece of information has been posted on the internet for a decade. Seeing it asap might not matter for you, but it does for many people.
    - vineyardmike 5y ago
      > I'm just not interested in Twitter as a source of information Good for you, but there are millions of people who don't share this view, including the whole point of this discussion is for those people.
      - tonguez 5y ago
        "Good for you, but there are millions of people who don't share this view, including the whole point of this discussion is for those people." "Good for you," It seems like you were so mad you forgot how grammar works. Maybe take a few days off from your rage echo chamber. I'm pretty sure whatever you were trying to say was wrong, and you provide an example of why discussions about Twitter aren't relevant only to Twitter users. The majority of people, who are disgusted by Twitter, want it gone, because they don't like what it does to people like you. It turns them into these raging bot-like NPCs who can't even speak in intelligible sentences, which makes it easier for Big Brother to control everything, because instead of rightly hating Big Brother, it's brainwashed you into hating people who advocate for free speech and don't want everything in life controlled by whoever happened to inherit the most money.
- distances 5y ago
  Spotify has a free tier too of course, with a bit more free users than paying ones according to Wikipedia.
- nicce 5y ago
  Sea of alternatives and I have never heard about one.
  - colinmhayes 5y ago
    Parler popped up pretty quickly. I would be very surprised if everyone didn't immediately migrate if twitter announced this.
    - saagarjha 5y ago
      Parler has a reputation.
      - colinmhayes 5y ago
        Not necessarily Parler, just saying they showed it's easy enough to create a twitter clone and gain popularity.
        yunohn 5y ago
        That’s not entirely true - they attracted a specific crowd hyped by politics.
tinyhouse 5y ago
The key is that none of these have free alternatives, besides NY Times and Washington Post (I don't know what Charter is). Twitter has many free alternatives so it'd be closer to the bottom of this list.

YetAnotherNick 5y ago

Except for youtube premium you don't have any alternative for the sites available for free. For twitter there is sea of alternatives that does the exact same thing.

tomnipotent 5y ago
> there is sea of alternatives None of them even remotely have Twitter's reach, and more importantly content creators ranging from heads of state to Nobel Prize winners to A-list celebrities.
- brianwawok 5y ago
  Right, but people are not paying $4 to read this. At least 99% of the market would drop off. I literally just log on to see what hilarious things papa elon tweet, without it I would just... do something better with my time.
- logifail 5y ago
  > heads of state to Nobel Prize winners to A-list celebrities I'm reminded of my OH's retort to someone reportedly claiming fluency in multiple languages, "Great, but do they have anything interesting to say in any of them?" I'm just not interested in Twitter as a source of information. For me, it's a last-ditch-saloon means to complain to companies who can't or won't publish a customer services email address. That's all.
  - Closi 5y ago
    Absolutely agreed - what’s the thing in common all the listed ‘paid for’ subscriptions have? Good quality content. What’s twitters general concept? 140 word tweets that are intended to have very little thought go into them in general. That to me is poor quality content.
    - vineyardmike 5y ago
      > That to me is poor quality content. Yet many people pay for the twitter API data stream already.
  - colinmhayes 5y ago
    Twitter is the first place every piece of information has been posted on the internet for a decade. Seeing it asap might not matter for you, but it does for many people.
  - vineyardmike 5y ago
    > I'm just not interested in Twitter as a source of information Good for you, but there are millions of people who don't share this view, including the whole point of this discussion is for those people.
    - tonguez 5y ago
      "Good for you, but there are millions of people who don't share this view, including the whole point of this discussion is for those people." "Good for you," It seems like you were so mad you forgot how grammar works. Maybe take a few days off from your rage echo chamber. I'm pretty sure whatever you were trying to say was wrong, and you provide an example of why discussions about Twitter aren't relevant only to Twitter users. The majority of people, who are disgusted by Twitter, want it gone, because they don't like what it does to people like you. It turns them into these raging bot-like NPCs who can't even speak in intelligible sentences, which makes it easier for Big Brother to control everything, because instead of rightly hating Big Brother, it's brainwashed you into hating people who advocate for free speech and don't want everything in life controlled by whoever happened to inherit the most money.
distances 5y ago
Spotify has a free tier too of course, with a bit more free users than paying ones according to Wikipedia.
nicce 5y ago
Sea of alternatives and I have never heard about one.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  Parler popped up pretty quickly. I would be very surprised if everyone didn't immediately migrate if twitter announced this.
  - saagarjha 5y ago
    Parler has a reputation.
    - colinmhayes 5y ago
      Not necessarily Parler, just saying they showed it's easy enough to create a twitter clone and gain popularity.
      - yunohn 5y ago
        That’s not entirely true - they attracted a specific crowd hyped by politics.

tinyhouse 5y ago

The key is that none of these have free alternatives, besides NY Times and Washington Post (I don't know what Charter is). Twitter has many free alternatives so it'd be closer to the bottom of this list.