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> And the way you look affects hiring anyway - at some point you'll have to talk to someone over video or in person. The problem is that you probably won't get

by bogwog 5y ago

> And the way you look affects hiring anyway - at some point you'll have to talk to someone over video or in person. The problem is that you probably won't get that far if an employer doesn't like the color of your skin, your gender, that you're in a wheelchair, etc. Your resume will probably go in the trash as soon as they see your photo. But if you can at least get into an interview, you have an opportunity to sell yourself as a candidate.

jstx1 5y ago
I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism. The problem itself is real of course, I just don't think that having or not having a profile picture will make any difference. And there's other factors too - do I need to hide my name so I don't give away that I'm from a foreign country or that I'm a woman? I don't want to pretend that I have a solution for racism/sexism/etc. in hiring but I really don't think that tiptoeing around people's prejudices is the way to do it.
- ghaff 5y ago
  The same thing probably applies to ageism. Sure, you can tap dance around putting a lot of specific dates on your resume. But generally it's pretty obvious within a decade or so. And, if you really go whole hog and don't even put any durations, you probably don't want to look like you're maybe just out of school if you've just had a couple long duration jobs--and the company's application form will probably make you fill in dates anyway.
  - vxNsr 5y ago
    To each their own, but my mom who is nearly 60 and still enjoys working, had good experience with just removing the years from her college and like her first 4 jobs.
    - ghaff 5y ago
      I'm not sure what that proves though. I got my last job well into my 50s and my approximate age was certainly no secret to the people hiring me given that I knew them personally. I guess my feeling is that there's generally not a good reason to hide things that are going to be obvious the minute someone lays eyes on you, especially if doing so might itself raise a flag in someone's mind.
      - vxNsr 5y ago
        Sorry, I should have added: until she did that she wasn't getting any responses.
- addingnumbers 5y ago
  > I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism. Racism can be very subtle and insidious, though. You don't always need to talk them out of beliefs like "we are going to take your country away from you," it's more about dispelling unexamined gut beliefs like "the best candidate will probably visually resemble the people who have been good in that role before." The latter is less difficult to overcome if you can get yourself into the face-to-face stage.

by bogwog 5y ago

jstx1 5y ago

I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism. The problem itself is real of course, I just don't think that having or not having a profile picture will make any difference. And there's other factors too - do I need to hide my name so I don't give away that I'm from a foreign country or that I'm a woman? I don't want to pretend that I have a solution for racism/sexism/etc. in hiring but I really don't think that tiptoeing around people's prejudices is the way to do it.

ghaff 5y ago
The same thing probably applies to ageism. Sure, you can tap dance around putting a lot of specific dates on your resume. But generally it's pretty obvious within a decade or so. And, if you really go whole hog and don't even put any durations, you probably don't want to look like you're maybe just out of school if you've just had a couple long duration jobs--and the company's application form will probably make you fill in dates anyway.
- vxNsr 5y ago
  To each their own, but my mom who is nearly 60 and still enjoys working, had good experience with just removing the years from her college and like her first 4 jobs.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    I'm not sure what that proves though. I got my last job well into my 50s and my approximate age was certainly no secret to the people hiring me given that I knew them personally. I guess my feeling is that there's generally not a good reason to hide things that are going to be obvious the minute someone lays eyes on you, especially if doing so might itself raise a flag in someone's mind.
    - vxNsr 5y ago
      Sorry, I should have added: until she did that she wasn't getting any responses.
addingnumbers 5y ago
> I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism. Racism can be very subtle and insidious, though. You don't always need to talk them out of beliefs like "we are going to take your country away from you," it's more about dispelling unexamined gut beliefs like "the best candidate will probably visually resemble the people who have been good in that role before." The latter is less difficult to overcome if you can get yourself into the face-to-face stage.