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One approach I've still never seen is native browser support for Python - something like what Google's Dart team did with Dartium. Of course that means your si

One approach I've still never seen is native browser support for Python - something like what Google's Dart team did with Dartium. Of course that means your site would be inaccessible to anyone with a normal browser so you couldn't run it in production... but were you really ever going to run something like this in a production environment anyways?

dec0dedab0de 5y ago
That would be Brython. It's a Python interpreter and part of the standard library written in javascript. Along with some dom manipulation libraries.
- CivBase 5y ago
  I don't think that's true. https://brython.info/static_tutorial/en/index.html https://brython.info/static_tutorial/en/index.html > In the <head> zone we load the script brython.js : it is the Brython engine, the program that will find and execute the Python scripts included in the page. It looks like Brython works by embedding a Python interpreter into the page as Javascript. That's 5 MB if you include the standard library - almost 800 KB for just the interpreter. Not to mention the computational overhead of running an interpreter in an interpreter.
  - dec0dedab0de 5y ago
    I did say it was an interpreter written in JS, but I had misunderstood what you were saying. I think Grail could do what you were talking about, but it never got any traction. I also vaguely remember there being a python plugin floating around back in the day, kind of like flash, but I can't find any reference to it.
eesmith 5y ago
From back when (non-avian) dinosaurs roamed the world - "Grail is an extensible Internet browser written entirely in the interpreted object-oriented programming language Python", available at http://grail.sourceforge.net/ http://grail.sourceforge.net/ > Grail lets you download Python programs that execute inside Grail on your local machine. These little applications ("applets") can do things like display animations, interact with the user in new ways, even create additional menus that pop up dialogs if you like.

dec0dedab0de 5y ago

That would be Brython. It's a Python interpreter and part of the standard library written in javascript. Along with some dom manipulation libraries.

CivBase 5y ago
I don't think that's true. https://brython.info/static_tutorial/en/index.html https://brython.info/static_tutorial/en/index.html > In the <head> zone we load the script brython.js : it is the Brython engine, the program that will find and execute the Python scripts included in the page. It looks like Brython works by embedding a Python interpreter into the page as Javascript. That's 5 MB if you include the standard library - almost 800 KB for just the interpreter. Not to mention the computational overhead of running an interpreter in an interpreter.
- dec0dedab0de 5y ago
  I did say it was an interpreter written in JS, but I had misunderstood what you were saying. I think Grail could do what you were talking about, but it never got any traction. I also vaguely remember there being a python plugin floating around back in the day, kind of like flash, but I can't find any reference to it.

eesmith 5y ago

From back when (non-avian) dinosaurs roamed the world - "Grail is an extensible Internet browser written entirely in the interpreted object-oriented programming language Python", available at http://grail.sourceforge.net/ http://grail.sourceforge.net/ > Grail lets you download Python programs that execute inside Grail on your local machine. These little applications ("applets") can do things like display animations, interact with the user in new ways, even create additional menus that pop up dialogs if you like.