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> Like I'd have to set up Colemak everywhere I go, if I sat at someone else's computer or a public computer it would be back to Qwerty, if you ever look down at
by codetrotter 5y ago
> Like I'd have to set up Colemak everywhere I go, if I sat at someone else's computer or a public computer it would be back to Qwerty, if you ever look down at your keys for reference (something you want to do a lot when you're learning a new layout) they're telling you Qwerty, etc.
I use Dvorak. One of the first things I did when switching to Dvorak was buying a keyboard with hardware Dvorak layout and a black skin. The hardware layout meant that to use it on any computer all I had to do was set the computer I wanted to use to US English. The black skin meant I couldn’t cheat and look – it was painful for a short while and it was extremely effective in forcing me to learn the layout.
The fact that other computers are in QWERTY don’t matter. In fact on my laptop I use QWERTY when using the builtin keyboard. On my phone I use QWERTY. But with my keyboard I use Dvorak. You don’t need to unlearn QWERTY to learn Dvorak. In fact it’s better to keep using QWERTY on the side like I do, because you still reap the benefits of Dvorak when you use Dvorak, without becoming incapable of using “normal” computers and devices.
The original keyboard I bought when learning Dvorak was the TypeMatrix 2030 USB ortholinear keyboard with an all black skin.
My current keyboard, that I’ve been using for the past few years, is the programmable mechanical ortholinear keyboard ErgoDox EZ Shine. All black.
For my ErgoDox EZ Shine I created a custom Dvorak-based layout that I use: https://github.com/ctsrc/ergodox-ez-shine-dvorak https://github.com/ctsrc/ergodox-ez-shine-dvorak
- cableshaft 5y agoI'm glad you figured out how to make it work for you. But in a way you're kind of proving my point when you're saying you use QWERTY on your laptop and your phone. You may be able to context switch fine but I was having a hell of a time. Also last time I tried was probably 15+ years ago.
- Symbiote 5y agoI've used Dvorak for over 15 years. I keep Qwerty on my phone, since the advantages of Dvorak are disadvantages on a phone keyboard -- I want the letters to be spread all over the place, so the swipe-to-type thing works. Jobs differ, but I very rarely type more than a word on computer keyboards other than my own. If a colleague asks me to help with something, I almost always think it's more polite to ask them to type.
- wussboy 5y agoYou need to learn qwerty. Then you need to learn Dvorak (or in my opinion the far superior Colemak). Then you need to learn to switch between them. It can be done but it’s three separate stages.
- codetrotter 5y agoAgree. Thinking back, I remember that for after I learned to use Dvorak I did actually struggle with QWERTY for a while. So for some time I stuck to only Dvorak. And then I learned to switch between both.