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Shooting the messenger. The linked page is not up to encyclopedic standards of neutrality, but there are bits worth discussing.

by mrpopo 5y ago

blitzar 5y ago
> Apple devices lock users in solely to Apple services by being designed to be incompatible with all other options, ethical or unethical. Is this litterally the best facts that gnu.org could come up with? Who put together this crap; a 12 year old or a guy who sells mattresses and is gonna launch his big lawsuit any day now.
- fsflover 5y ago
  But it’s true. Can you use Apple Watch with Android? No. You even cannot use it with an iPad!
  - LeoPanthera 5y ago
    This is a bit like complaining that you can't use an Xbox controller with a Playstation.
    - fsflover 5y ago
      There is no technical reason why Apple Watch can't work with other devices, except intentional Apple lockdown forcing users to buy iPhones. I see nothing similar with the gaming platforms. Apple Watch can't even be turned on without an iPhone. Have a look at PineTime - an open-source watch that can work with anything you want, or by itself.
      - agentdax5 5y ago
        > I see nothing similar with the gaming platforms. How can you say that? I can’t run home brew games on an Xbox due to intentional locking down of the device by Microsoft forcing me to buy games they bless to be on their platform. But some how these companies get a pass but Apple gets constantly blasted for this practice? For the record, you should be able to do these things. But that is somewhat of a naive view of the world.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    > But it’s true > Apple devices lock users in solely to Apple services by being designed to be incompatible with all other options incompatible with ALL other options Can you use an iPad with Gmail? Yes. Can you use google maps? Yes. Can you use the non apple internet? Yes. Can use non apple services on an OSX? Yes. Can you use dropbox? Yes. I wont keep going as the list of non apple services you can use with an apple device is bascially infinite. In the time it would take to write them all down many more would have come into existence. So it is demonstrably false, not even remotely close to being true. There are legitimate issues, you dont need to litterally make up shit to make the case. It is either lazy, or just shows that the people making the case are too retarded for the nuance needed to actually highlight the real problems that exist.

Shooting the messenger. The linked page is not up to encyclopedic standards of neutrality, but there are bits worth discussing.

by mrpopo 5y ago

Shooting the messenger. The linked page is not up to encyclopedic standards of neutrality, but there are bits worth discussing.

blitzar 5y ago

> Apple devices lock users in solely to Apple services by being designed to be incompatible with all other options, ethical or unethical. Is this litterally the best facts that gnu.org could come up with? Who put together this crap; a 12 year old or a guy who sells mattresses and is gonna launch his big lawsuit any day now.

fsflover 5y ago
But it’s true. Can you use Apple Watch with Android? No. You even cannot use it with an iPad!
- LeoPanthera 5y ago
  This is a bit like complaining that you can't use an Xbox controller with a Playstation.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    There is no technical reason why Apple Watch can't work with other devices, except intentional Apple lockdown forcing users to buy iPhones. I see nothing similar with the gaming platforms. Apple Watch can't even be turned on without an iPhone. Have a look at PineTime - an open-source watch that can work with anything you want, or by itself.
    - agentdax5 5y ago
      > I see nothing similar with the gaming platforms. How can you say that? I can’t run home brew games on an Xbox due to intentional locking down of the device by Microsoft forcing me to buy games they bless to be on their platform. But some how these companies get a pass but Apple gets constantly blasted for this practice? For the record, you should be able to do these things. But that is somewhat of a naive view of the world.
- blitzar 5y ago
  > But it’s true > Apple devices lock users in solely to Apple services by being designed to be incompatible with all other options incompatible with ALL other options Can you use an iPad with Gmail? Yes. Can you use google maps? Yes. Can you use the non apple internet? Yes. Can use non apple services on an OSX? Yes. Can you use dropbox? Yes. I wont keep going as the list of non apple services you can use with an apple device is bascially infinite. In the time it would take to write them all down many more would have come into existence. So it is demonstrably false, not even remotely close to being true. There are legitimate issues, you dont need to litterally make up shit to make the case. It is either lazy, or just shows that the people making the case are too retarded for the nuance needed to actually highlight the real problems that exist.