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I'm very skeptical that these technologies will be more efficient than incumbent solutions. These products seem to be designed to comport with well intended pol

I'm very skeptical that these technologies will be more efficient than incumbent solutions. These products seem to be designed to comport with well intended political goals, rather than consumer preferences. It may be that these products are taxes-by-another-name, as consumers either shell out more money for inferior solutions (ebikes, I guess), or, turn to the secondary market instead (for gas leafblowers, say). After seeing what we did with recycling, I would not be so naive going forward, on the claims of environmentalists. (I still have yet to see the research on the electric car co2 implications of producing batteries and offloading co2 output to power plants, when compared to the incumbent solution)

Hokusai 5y ago
> I still have yet to see the research on the electric car co2 implications of producing batteries and offloading co2 output to power plants, when compared to the incumbent solution - https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/does-electric-vehicle-emit-less-petrol-or-diesel/ https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/does-electric-... This numbers take into account that countries like Poland use coal to produce electricity. And even that is improving fast.
- brighton36 5y ago
  Thank-you. Candidly, I think 'no car' is what we should be promoting. I got rid of mine earlier in the year. I may find out this plan is wishful thinking. We'll see.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  Also, don't forget that even we in Poland use mostly coal for electricity - and will continue for next 20 years - it's share will fall, hopefully drastically.
8note 5y ago
Ebikes are without doubt both more efficient and superior transportation methods. They have less space requirements, both in private and public investment, and require less energy to move. They fit modern requirements for really expensive real estate and rental costs really well. Overall, I'd expect the efficiencies of the technology to approach similar numbers to what they're replacing, but the businesses profiting off the technology's use will change. Maybe for the better for end customers, and maybe not, but there's disruption opportunities galore

Hokusai 5y ago

> I still have yet to see the research on the electric car co2 implications of producing batteries and offloading co2 output to power plants, when compared to the incumbent solution - https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/does-electric-vehicle-emit-less-petrol-or-diesel/ https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/does-electric-... This numbers take into account that countries like Poland use coal to produce electricity. And even that is improving fast.

brighton36 5y ago
Thank-you. Candidly, I think 'no car' is what we should be promoting. I got rid of mine earlier in the year. I may find out this plan is wishful thinking. We'll see.
KptMarchewa 5y ago
Also, don't forget that even we in Poland use mostly coal for electricity - and will continue for next 20 years - it's share will fall, hopefully drastically.

8note 5y ago

Ebikes are without doubt both more efficient and superior transportation methods. They have less space requirements, both in private and public investment, and require less energy to move. They fit modern requirements for really expensive real estate and rental costs really well. Overall, I'd expect the efficiencies of the technology to approach similar numbers to what they're replacing, but the businesses profiting off the technology's use will change. Maybe for the better for end customers, and maybe not, but there's disruption opportunities galore