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The stock popped 10%. Is this a vote of confidence against him or for whoever has been waiting in the wings? There has been enough agitation against him by the
by mathattack 5y ago
The stock popped 10%. Is this a vote of confidence against him or for whoever has been waiting in the wings? There has been enough agitation against him by the activists that this can’t be a surprise.
- sbarre 5y agoI think people are excited for _any_ change at Twitter right now. They've been making progress in the last year or two but I suspect most people think they could be doing more...
- koheripbal 5y agoTwitter is extremely toxic and divisive, and Dorsey is... the same. People are hoping his removal will allow the platform to mature.
- johncena33 5y agoTwitter is THE social media I am not able to use without letting it affect my mental health. Anytime I logged into Twitter, I came out more angry, bitter and outraged. It's like the whole platform is built around hot takes, dunking, bullying, and outrage. It always baffles me how mainstream media never utters a word how toxic Twitter is.
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- elorant 5y agoMainstream media has no problem with Twitter because it's not eating their lunch.
- JohnWhigham 5y agoMakes me think of how many traditional media outlets had a lot to say about YouTube being "rabbit holes" and whatnot around election times, but have a lot less to say about them now that Google picked up the pace on censoring content and pruning platform capabilities (removing dislikes being a big one).
- basisword 5y agoCompletely agree. On top of that, even if you avoid the politically charged stuff, there is just a staggering amount of bullshit. “Thought leaders” with tens of thousands of followers all tweeting the same broad ideas as if they’re original thoughts.
- systemvoltage 5y agoOh god. The thought leaders. The truly despicable aspect of Twitter. These people pop up on my feed and it’s just extremely cringeworthy. No need to explain in depth what their thoughts are. Just 140 characters and off you go.
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- vxNsr 5y ago> It always baffles me how mainstream media never utters a word how toxic Twitter is Because they are the toxicity.
- mbg721 5y agoThe mainstream media are trying to recapture the attention-monopoly they had in the 60s-70s, and are largely succeeding. They don't want to compete with Twitter; they want to buy it.
- samtheprogram 5y agoAny particular reason you excluded the 80s (or even the 90s) from the attention-monopoly time period?
- mbg721 5y agoOnly that I think the 80s were a little past the sweet-spot of network television; cable was starting to become widespread.
- Rastonbury 5y agoThey love embedding tweets to make news articles
- Rastonbury 5y agoSorry but cynically toxic and divisive algos drives more attention thus more ad revenue (see FB), it's not going to get better with a more investor friendly CEO
- whimsicalism 5y agoYeah not really sure how people think trying to squeeze more money out of the platform will somehow improve the experience. Twitter has not as aggressively monetized with advertising as FB has, I wonder if we will see the same soon.
- elzbardico 5y agolike big tobacco selecting tobacco plant strains with more nicotine to ensure addiction
- someguydave 5y agoI think twitter moderation has been so overtly one sided that there is plenty of profit to be made by warming up to the other side.
- ConceptJunkie 5y agoI'll take Things That Will Never Happen for $400, Alex.
- anthropodie 5y agoAnd what is the cost of that to society? These companies always maximize their own profits. Nobody cares about society or greater good anymore. I wonder if that is the reason why we are living in the age of misinformation.
- philjohn 5y agoDo you have examples to share? From what I've seen of posts taken down and/or accounts banned it seems to be people spewing severe vitriol - and that's on both sides.
- LordFast 5y ago
- reTensor 5y agoIt's like when Kyle Vogt was forcibly removed from the CEO position at Cruise and replaced by Dan Ammann. You need someone with brains and decency (not just luck) to run the company.
- mattrighetti 5y agoThat won't happen, the community is there to stay and it won't be less toxic just because the CEO resigned.
- duxup 5y ago>allow the platform to mature What does that mean? The medium is the message and Twitter is curt, prone to exaggeration / outrageous / mean spirited content.... and the people on there EAT IT UP. What is going to mature?
- YinglingLight 5y agocensorship, censorship will mature
- renewiltord 5y agoTwitter is only like that if one consumes that content. Like, if one only ever follows John Carmack and Gwern, that won't be the experience. Saying Twitter is mean-spirited is essentially the same as saying that no matter where one goes one smells shit. Everyone who feels that way should check the bottom of their shoe. I suggest Matthew 7:5 for them.
- duxup 5y agoIt's just too much work pruning / hoping you find folks who are sort a single topic accounts for me. Often they fall off the wagon and get into spats and so on. Too much hassle to constantly add / remove folks to keep a feed that isn't "typical social media feed BS".
- renewiltord 5y agoI have been append-only to my list and it's been great. Only ever had to take Matt Yglesias off my list and that's because he tweets all the time. The downside (maybe upside) is that I run out of Twitter content pretty fast.
- wutbrodo 5y agoFwiw, this isn't my experience. My following list is remarkably stable, and I've only had to prune people "falling of the wagon" once or twice. It's also not much work: you see their tweet, remember that they've done thus more than once recently, and click unfollow. The main cost is that this isn't conducive to a very large following list, but perhaps that's a good thing.
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- boringg 5y agoAre you trying to say this is Twitter's version of Uber's Travis Kalanick getting pushed to the exit moment?
- cjrp 5y agoVote of no confidence surely
- vmception 5y agoThey saw Dorsey's plan, and liked another plan better. Simple.
- mathattack 5y agoWas it plan or execution? I understand he had some very aggressive performance targets to hit too.
- elliekelly 5y agoI think parent comment is making a joke in reference to HBO’s Succession: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5xBrFbNHhYk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5xBrFbNHhYk The line is a bullshit TV talking point to rationalize (to the markets) an abrupt 180 by one of the characters.
- vmception 5y agoIs it bullshit? The plan the buyers like has a chance of making just a few more dollars for their limited partners than Jack Dorsey's plan and thats why they bought more shares. Simple.
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- mathattack 5y agoThanks for the cultural context!
- zz865 5y ago> stock popped 10% stock is back to where it was a week ago, and is still lower than most of the year. These headlines are meaningless.
- MisterBastahrd 5y agoDorsey seemed willing to stick to Twitter's core vision. It would not surprise me at all if investors like Paul Singer decided to try and convert it into a second facebook.
- soneca 5y agoThe stock is down for the day at the moment. I wonder if all comments rationalizing the (very) brief 10% up will rethink their arguments.
- mathattack 5y agoInteresting - it could be that the reality is harder than the headline.
- tinyhouse 5y agoStock is red now. Pump and dump.
- testplzignore 5y agoDid the news leak before market open? His tweet was at 10:48 EST, and the email screenshot has 9:45 AM, which presumably is EST (it's certainly not PST). Edit: The submission to HN was before the tweet. Huh? I guess it originally linked to somewhere else.
- 333c 5y agoThe HN submission was originally a link to an article with a headline something like "Jack Dorsey expected to step down as Twitter CEO."
- HNTA_1 5y agoThe past few years the stock market has been so divorced from reality that I wouldn't read too much into it.
- polote 5y agoThere is an history of tech Startups doing very well financially when their founders leave. See Google, Microsoft, Apple