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We should have infrastructure for sharing things like this without putting a centralized entity like archive.org in the crosshairs. Bittorrent comes to mind, bu

by dmos62 5y ago

We should have infrastructure for sharing things like this without putting a centralized entity like archive.org in the crosshairs. Bittorrent comes to mind, but it could only be part of the solution.

danlugo92 5y ago
https://gun.eco/ https://gun.eco/
0des 5y ago
IPFS is perfect for this.
- dvdkon 5y ago
  Almost, but since it publicly associates the files you share with your IP address, I don't see most interested people willing to use it in this context.
  - 0des 5y ago
    Pinning services exist, VPN's exist, also every other technology including torrents exposes your IP.
    - soylentcola 5y ago
      True, but torrents et al make you a peer, so you're also distributing, not just saving a copy locally. At least that's how I've always understood it in terms of legal risk. But yeah, VPN has (so far) been enough for me to avoid being low hanging fruit when torrenting something I don't have a license to "distribute" while seeding.
      - dmos62 5y ago
        To be fair, most Bittorrent users have not had any legal issues (while downloading copyrighted stuff).
makeworld 5y ago
All archive.org items have a torrent file, so even if IA goes down you can still download the item from seeders.
- astrange 5y ago
  This isn't an archive.org item strictly speaking, just a page on the wayback machine. I'm not sure you can download it.
  - makeworld 5y ago
    Sure you can. Add 'oe_' to the end of the datetime, and you'll get the original HTML file. https://web.archive.org/web/20210515031018oe_/https://github.com/CONIGUERO/winamp https://web.archive.org/web/20210515031018oe_/https://github...
    - astrange 5y ago
      Saving the front page of a Github project isn't the same thing as clicking the download source button.
sergiotapia 5y ago
Disclaimer: I'm not into shitcoins, and I am not shilling this coin at all. However, the goals of Filecoin seem to be right up this alley. Distribute file storage among billions of users where the more you host and help the swarm, the more coins you earn. https://filecoin.io/ https://filecoin.io/ Last I checked (about a month ago) there was still no way to "help the swarm" without having a ridiculous set up but I imagine someone with more experience will correct me.

by dmos62 5y ago

danlugo92 5y ago

https://gun.eco/ https://gun.eco/

0des 5y ago

IPFS is perfect for this.

dvdkon 5y ago
Almost, but since it publicly associates the files you share with your IP address, I don't see most interested people willing to use it in this context.
- 0des 5y ago
  Pinning services exist, VPN's exist, also every other technology including torrents exposes your IP.
  - soylentcola 5y ago
    True, but torrents et al make you a peer, so you're also distributing, not just saving a copy locally. At least that's how I've always understood it in terms of legal risk. But yeah, VPN has (so far) been enough for me to avoid being low hanging fruit when torrenting something I don't have a license to "distribute" while seeding.
    - dmos62 5y ago
      To be fair, most Bittorrent users have not had any legal issues (while downloading copyrighted stuff).

makeworld 5y ago

All archive.org items have a torrent file, so even if IA goes down you can still download the item from seeders.

astrange 5y ago
This isn't an archive.org item strictly speaking, just a page on the wayback machine. I'm not sure you can download it.
- makeworld 5y ago
  Sure you can. Add 'oe_' to the end of the datetime, and you'll get the original HTML file. https://web.archive.org/web/20210515031018oe_/https://github.com/CONIGUERO/winamp https://web.archive.org/web/20210515031018oe_/https://github...
  - astrange 5y ago
    Saving the front page of a Github project isn't the same thing as clicking the download source button.

sergiotapia 5y ago

Disclaimer: I'm not into shitcoins, and I am not shilling this coin at all. However, the goals of Filecoin seem to be right up this alley. Distribute file storage among billions of users where the more you host and help the swarm, the more coins you earn. https://filecoin.io/ https://filecoin.io/ Last I checked (about a month ago) there was still no way to "help the swarm" without having a ridiculous set up but I imagine someone with more experience will correct me.