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I don't think the relative ease of writing extensions for VSCode can be overlooked. There's a relative explosion of extensions addressing a lot of niche needs f

I don't think the relative ease of writing extensions for VSCode can be overlooked. There's a relative explosion of extensions addressing a lot of niche needs for various markets. My experience is that many of them aren't terribly good, or were good but are no longer maintained, etc. If/when JB makes it more straightforward to write extensions, there may always be a perception different. VSCode extensions in TypeScript will be easier for many curious folks to address vs Java/Scala-based plugins for JetBrains.

FranksTV 5y ago
Yeah but the quality is pretty mixed. A lot have performance problems, and maintenance is spotty.
- mgkimsal 5y ago
  Touched on that with "My experience is that many of them aren't terribly good, or were good but are no longer maintained, etc" But... I realize now my comment was edited some during writing, and I merged two different directions I was heading in in to one comment, and didn't really finish either direction... You're correct that the quality is mixed at best, and... discovery is a pain. I regularly use phpstorm, and when working with others using vscode, I see they've gone through multiple php plugins for vscode, with varying success, and almost nothing comes close to the built-in functionality with JetBrains. The "live share" aspect of vscode is really nice (and 'codewithme' is OK too) but I've rarely been on a team where people ever paired enough to make it a useful or regular part of work. The 'remote' thing is where vscode has really seemed to rocket ahead in the last year or so (just my own observation from colleagues). I didn't understand the attraction, then... on thinking about it more, I guess I can somewhat understand the attraction, but it's not something I've felt compelled to pursue - it's felt like a step backwards. Maybe that will be something I revisit in 2022...

FranksTV 5y ago

Yeah but the quality is pretty mixed. A lot have performance problems, and maintenance is spotty.

mgkimsal 5y ago
Touched on that with "My experience is that many of them aren't terribly good, or were good but are no longer maintained, etc" But... I realize now my comment was edited some during writing, and I merged two different directions I was heading in in to one comment, and didn't really finish either direction... You're correct that the quality is mixed at best, and... discovery is a pain. I regularly use phpstorm, and when working with others using vscode, I see they've gone through multiple php plugins for vscode, with varying success, and almost nothing comes close to the built-in functionality with JetBrains. The "live share" aspect of vscode is really nice (and 'codewithme' is OK too) but I've rarely been on a team where people ever paired enough to make it a useful or regular part of work. The 'remote' thing is where vscode has really seemed to rocket ahead in the last year or so (just my own observation from colleagues). I didn't understand the attraction, then... on thinking about it more, I guess I can somewhat understand the attraction, but it's not something I've felt compelled to pursue - it's felt like a step backwards. Maybe that will be something I revisit in 2022...