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I don't know why so many companies feel compelled to needlessly take political stances. I think they can only lose from that. Although I have heard Nike earned

I don't know why so many companies feel compelled to needlessly take political stances. I think they can only lose from that. Although I have heard Nike earned billions with the Kaepernick campaigns, so maybe sometimes it does pay off. But for Mozilla? Do they get government funding?

ahartmetz 5y ago
But what does it matter to you? You can ignore it. It's a good browser and it doesn't insert political messages into websites.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
  They explicitly said the want to do more censorship and promote fake news (like the New York Times), so how can I trust that they won't influence my browsing? What is their differentiating factor to Google now? It is a 180° turn on what they seemed to stand for in the past, an open web.
  - ahartmetz 5y ago
    > fake news like the NY times ...OK? > What is their differentiating factor to Google now? Mozilla doesn't gather your data to show you ads
    - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
      "Mozilla doesn't gather your data to show you ads" So they say, but they have teamed up with Google and Pocket before. And how do they plan to fight "hate speech" and promote fake news, without analyzing my data? What if they don't like what I write or look at?
      - ahartmetz 5y ago
        I don't think they will build censorship into the browser. I guess you can worry about that if and when it happens, not before.
        kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        What are they talking about, then? What is their plan? If they don't intent to build censorship mechanisms, maybe they shouldn't talk as if they do?
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NateEag 5y ago
It's a religious impulse. It may not be literal religion, in the sense of believing "God says this is the right thing to do," but it is the same underlying instinct - "This is Right, and I must do all in my power to serve it." Humans pick other people who agree with them for their teams, so after a while corporate cultures are almost guaranteed to become homogeneous. Once they are, groupthink and lack of dissenting opinions means the company starts to explicitly support whatever causes fit its corporate culture. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.
- 1_player 5y ago
  It's a religious impulse for people, for companies is pure profit-driven marketing. They are into politics because people nowadays love politics. It is everywhere. People want to brand themselves and carry their political flag everywhere. So it sells.
  - _0ffh 5y ago
    I don't think they love politics per se, but they love to hate the opposing tribe.
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ahartmetz 5y ago

But what does it matter to you? You can ignore it. It's a good browser and it doesn't insert political messages into websites.

kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
They explicitly said the want to do more censorship and promote fake news (like the New York Times), so how can I trust that they won't influence my browsing? What is their differentiating factor to Google now? It is a 180° turn on what they seemed to stand for in the past, an open web.
- ahartmetz 5y ago
  > fake news like the NY times ...OK? > What is their differentiating factor to Google now? Mozilla doesn't gather your data to show you ads
  - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
    "Mozilla doesn't gather your data to show you ads" So they say, but they have teamed up with Google and Pocket before. And how do they plan to fight "hate speech" and promote fake news, without analyzing my data? What if they don't like what I write or look at?
    - ahartmetz 5y ago
      I don't think they will build censorship into the browser. I guess you can worry about that if and when it happens, not before.
      - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        What are they talking about, then? What is their plan? If they don't intent to build censorship mechanisms, maybe they shouldn't talk as if they do?
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NateEag 5y ago

It's a religious impulse. It may not be literal religion, in the sense of believing "God says this is the right thing to do," but it is the same underlying instinct - "This is Right, and I must do all in my power to serve it." Humans pick other people who agree with them for their teams, so after a while corporate cultures are almost guaranteed to become homogeneous. Once they are, groupthink and lack of dissenting opinions means the company starts to explicitly support whatever causes fit its corporate culture. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.

1_player 5y ago
It's a religious impulse for people, for companies is pure profit-driven marketing. They are into politics because people nowadays love politics. It is everywhere. People want to brand themselves and carry their political flag everywhere. So it sells.
- _0ffh 5y ago
  I don't think they love politics per se, but they love to hate the opposing tribe.

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