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This variant is already being found on nearly every continent as I type this. We still don’t seem to know if this variant is more or less contagious or more or

This variant is already being found on nearly every continent as I type this. We still don’t seem to know if this variant is more or less contagious or more or less deadly. It’s too late to stop it’s spread. So then what? Just keep pushing the worldwide vaccination campaign? I don’t see what else can be done that wouldn’t simply be kicking the can down the road more.

pif 5y ago
> ... that wouldn’t simply be kicking the can down the road more. Kicking the can down the road is a good thing. It buys us more time to look for a more impactful solution.
DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
> We still don’t seem to know if this variant is more or less contagious (R0 of 2) we already know it's far more contagious but not if it's more deadly than delta with an r0 of 2: > The estimated reproduction number, the average number of people that an individual is likely to infect, is almost 2 in Gauteng compared with nearly 1.5 nationally. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2299194-omicron-how-dangerous-is-the-new-variant-first-found-in-south-africa/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2299194-omicron-how-dan...
- VierScar 5y ago
  I think I am misunderstanding something. But wasnt the original Covid an R0 of 2.5-3? And Delta has an R0 of 7-8? An R0 of 2 sounds like a really low infection rate in comparison, but then it's increasing rapidly and outcompeting delta? I dont get it.
  - DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
    yes sorry you're right - I'm mixing something up here: > We identified five studies, which estimated the basic reproductive number for Delta. Table 1 shows that the basic reproductive number for Delta ranged from 3.2 to 8, with a mean of 5.08 -- https://academic.oup.com/view-large/305057394 https://academic.oup.com/view-large/305057394
kingkawn 5y ago
More contagious means more deaths because more people get it. More deadly means more people who get it die. In both cases more people die.

pif 5y ago

> ... that wouldn’t simply be kicking the can down the road more. Kicking the can down the road is a good thing. It buys us more time to look for a more impactful solution.

DyslexicAtheist 5y ago

> We still don’t seem to know if this variant is more or less contagious (R0 of 2) we already know it's far more contagious but not if it's more deadly than delta with an r0 of 2: > The estimated reproduction number, the average number of people that an individual is likely to infect, is almost 2 in Gauteng compared with nearly 1.5 nationally. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2299194-omicron-how-dangerous-is-the-new-variant-first-found-in-south-africa/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2299194-omicron-how-dan...

VierScar 5y ago
I think I am misunderstanding something. But wasnt the original Covid an R0 of 2.5-3? And Delta has an R0 of 7-8? An R0 of 2 sounds like a really low infection rate in comparison, but then it's increasing rapidly and outcompeting delta? I dont get it.
- DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
  yes sorry you're right - I'm mixing something up here: > We identified five studies, which estimated the basic reproductive number for Delta. Table 1 shows that the basic reproductive number for Delta ranged from 3.2 to 8, with a mean of 5.08 -- https://academic.oup.com/view-large/305057394 https://academic.oup.com/view-large/305057394

kingkawn 5y ago

More contagious means more deaths because more people get it. More deadly means more people who get it die. In both cases more people die.