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Having used a Linux-based system and macOS I can tell you it's those poor folks using Linux that suffer most from bloated desktop applications. Recent macOS ver

by bzzzt 5y ago

Having used a Linux-based system and macOS I can tell you it's those poor folks using Linux that suffer most from bloated desktop applications. Recent macOS versions are really good at efficiently using the available memory so a 16Gb Macbook performs better under memory pressure than a 32Gb Linux box.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
examples? except for the JVM/electron based apps that I am forced to use, all the Linux native applications are as good as any other system. Anecdotal, Firefox on Linux is the only incarnation of Firefox I feel comfortable using, I think it's between not great to terrible on other systems. I use WebKit based browser on other OSs. difference being I can tune the OS to work as I intend and the developer tools are some of the best in their categories, that's not true for the other two. MacOS is known for being slower and use more RAM on many developers task (docker, for example), but there are things you can only do on a Mac, iOS apps being one, and, honestly, I can't imagine using XCode with maximum 16 GB of RAM for the next few years. You might develop on MacOS, but then you deploy the artifacts on some Linux box, of course because there is no MacOS server offering, but I wouldn't do it anyway if I had the option. Windows as a server is not that bad either. I've worked with all of them in the past 25 years, Linux desktop experience is not as polished as it could be, but for sure it's not slow or bloated in general. Yes GNOME 40 is not great, GNOME 3 probably killed Linux on desktops, but I don't use it, so... even Plasma looks super snappy compared to MacOS these days. Claiming that Apple can double your RAM is a strong claim, that in my experience is not supported by any evidence. Perhaps the feeling of Apple system being faster comes from the fact that there are only relatively recent Apple machines around and it's rare to see some 8 years old Apple laptop still in use, while my 7 year old laptop with 64gb of RAM costed as much as an M1 Pro but can still do its job relatively well because I can put a lot of things in RAM, reducing the pressure on the rest of IO subsystem (I feel I have to specify that power efficiency is an order of magnitude worse than an M1, if battery life matters to you, Apple is ahead of the competition right now) But it's no secret that one of the strongest feature of Linux is giving new life to old systems. I still remember when I upgraded from Snow Leopard to High Sierra and everything became slower, sometimes unusably so. After 10.6.8 MacOS (best version of the OS I've ever used) has only got worse, in my opinion.

by bzzzt 5y ago

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

examples? except for the JVM/electron based apps that I am forced to use, all the Linux native applications are as good as any other system. Anecdotal, Firefox on Linux is the only incarnation of Firefox I feel comfortable using, I think it's between not great to terrible on other systems. I use WebKit based browser on other OSs. difference being I can tune the OS to work as I intend and the developer tools are some of the best in their categories, that's not true for the other two. MacOS is known for being slower and use more RAM on many developers task (docker, for example), but there are things you can only do on a Mac, iOS apps being one, and, honestly, I can't imagine using XCode with maximum 16 GB of RAM for the next few years. You might develop on MacOS, but then you deploy the artifacts on some Linux box, of course because there is no MacOS server offering, but I wouldn't do it anyway if I had the option. Windows as a server is not that bad either. I've worked with all of them in the past 25 years, Linux desktop experience is not as polished as it could be, but for sure it's not slow or bloated in general. Yes GNOME 40 is not great, GNOME 3 probably killed Linux on desktops, but I don't use it, so... even Plasma looks super snappy compared to MacOS these days. Claiming that Apple can double your RAM is a strong claim, that in my experience is not supported by any evidence. Perhaps the feeling of Apple system being faster comes from the fact that there are only relatively recent Apple machines around and it's rare to see some 8 years old Apple laptop still in use, while my 7 year old laptop with 64gb of RAM costed as much as an M1 Pro but can still do its job relatively well because I can put a lot of things in RAM, reducing the pressure on the rest of IO subsystem (I feel I have to specify that power efficiency is an order of magnitude worse than an M1, if battery life matters to you, Apple is ahead of the competition right now) But it's no secret that one of the strongest feature of Linux is giving new life to old systems. I still remember when I upgraded from Snow Leopard to High Sierra and everything became slower, sometimes unusably so. After 10.6.8 MacOS (best version of the OS I've ever used) has only got worse, in my opinion.