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Maybe I am a minority, but I and some others I know of have turned their backs on Firefox because Mozilla got woke and spoke out in favor of censorship and prom
by kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
Maybe I am a minority, but I and some others I know of have turned their backs on Firefox because Mozilla got woke and spoke out in favor of censorship and promoting fake news. Since they are no longer proponents of freedom on the internet, any reason to still give them the time of the day has been gone away.
In fact I now celebrate their shrinking market share.
- ahartmetz 5y agoPartisan politics is one hell of a drug
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoI don't know why so many companies feel compelled to needlessly take political stances. I think they can only lose from that. Although I have heard Nike earned billions with the Kaepernick campaigns, so maybe sometimes it does pay off. But for Mozilla? Do they get government funding?
- ahartmetz 5y agoBut what does it matter to you? You can ignore it. It's a good browser and it doesn't insert political messages into websites.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoThey explicitly said the want to do more censorship and promote fake news (like the New York Times), so how can I trust that they won't influence my browsing? What is their differentiating factor to Google now? It is a 180° turn on what they seemed to stand for in the past, an open web.
- ahartmetz 5y ago> fake news like the NY times ...OK? > What is their differentiating factor to Google now? Mozilla doesn't gather your data to show you ads
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago"Mozilla doesn't gather your data to show you ads" So they say, but they have teamed up with Google and Pocket before. And how do they plan to fight "hate speech" and promote fake news, without analyzing my data? What if they don't like what I write or look at?
- ahartmetz 5y agoI don't think they will build censorship into the browser. I guess you can worry about that if and when it happens, not before.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoWhat are they talking about, then? What is their plan? If they don't intent to build censorship mechanisms, maybe they shouldn't talk as if they do?
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- NateEag 5y agoIt's a religious impulse. It may not be literal religion, in the sense of believing "God says this is the right thing to do," but it is the same underlying instinct - "This is Right, and I must do all in my power to serve it." Humans pick other people who agree with them for their teams, so after a while corporate cultures are almost guaranteed to become homogeneous. Once they are, groupthink and lack of dissenting opinions means the company starts to explicitly support whatever causes fit its corporate culture. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.
- 1_player 5y agoIt's a religious impulse for people, for companies is pure profit-driven marketing. They are into politics because people nowadays love politics. It is everywhere. People want to brand themselves and carry their political flag everywhere. So it sells.
- _0ffh 5y agoI don't think they love politics per se, but they love to hate the opposing tribe.
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- clavicat 5y agoI receive all of Mozilla’s newsletters and I seethe whenever I see them demanding that more be done to sanitize online expression, which is all the time. That said, Chrome is hardly an alternative given Google’s approach to moderating YouTube.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoI tried Vivaldi for a while and now I am using Edge. None of the options are really good. It's a shame.
- soundnote 5y agoEdge is a privacy disaster, sadly. You can't even make their sync fully end to end encrypted, and that's the tip of the iceberg from startpages to hardware-based browser IDs. Absolutely amazing product otherwise, but yuck.
- gdelfino01 5y agoAfter many years, I stopped using Firefox for this same reason. On the other hand, there is a fork named LibreWolf which so far is working well for me and is not related to Mozilla.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoThanks, I hadn't heard of LibreWolf before. Will check it out.
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