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> Legalising slavery The original constitution did not address slavery until the passing of the thirteenth amendment in 1865 which made it illegal except as pu

> Legalising slavery The original constitution did not address slavery until the passing of the thirteenth amendment in 1865 which made it illegal except as punishment for a convicted crime.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago
https://www.britannica.com/topic/three-fifths-compromise https://www.britannica.com/topic/three-fifths-compromise it's true that the word slavery is not used, but if you talk about free people and then note that there are not free people and make political rules for how those non free people should be counted, then in a slave holding society it becomes somewhat obvious who you're talking about.
dignan 5y ago
Article 1, Section 9 specifically prevented slavery from being abolished until 1808. The three-fifths compromise (Article 1, Section 2) also addressed slavery. The word never appears, but there are plenty of euphemistic references.
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mcny 5y ago
» which made it illegal except as punishment for a convicted crime It is time to revise this in my opinion. Just because I am in prison does not mean you can require me to work. If you can't afford to feed, clothe, house, and provide necessary medical services, release me. The fact that the state of Texas can deny air conditioning to inmates (when the temperature is ought to be enough for the US to require Texas to release all inmates in those conditions. How can states that are arguably in direct violation of basic human rights still have representation in the union is beyond me. » Refusing to install air conditioning is a matter not just of short-term cost savings, but of appearing tough on crime. State and local governments go to astonishing lengths to avoid installing air conditioning in prisons. In 2016, Louisiana spent over $1 million in legal bills in an attempt to avoid installing air conditioning on death row, an amount four times higher than the actual cost of installing air conditioning, according to an expert witness. Similarly, in 2014, the people of Jefferson Parish, LA only voted to build a new jail after local leaders promised there would be no air conditioning. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2019/06/18/air-conditioning/ https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2019/06/18/air-conditionin... It isn't just Texas. Prisoners throughout the country are malnourished and starving. It costs way too much to make a phone call so much so that public libraries offer assistance with phone calls. Democracy should not mean tyranny of the majority. I don't understand how this is controversial. If states and local governments are in violation of the constitution, they should automatically lose representation in the union.
markdown 5y ago
The result being that in 2021, slavery is still legal in the US. That's beyond abhorrent.

> Legalising slavery The original constitution did not address slavery until the passing of the thirteenth amendment in 1865 which made it illegal except as punishment for a convicted crime.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago

https://www.britannica.com/topic/three-fifths-compromise https://www.britannica.com/topic/three-fifths-compromise it's true that the word slavery is not used, but if you talk about free people and then note that there are not free people and make political rules for how those non free people should be counted, then in a slave holding society it becomes somewhat obvious who you're talking about.

dignan 5y ago

Article 1, Section 9 specifically prevented slavery from being abolished until 1808. The three-fifths compromise (Article 1, Section 2) also addressed slavery. The word never appears, but there are plenty of euphemistic references.

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mcny 5y ago

» which made it illegal except as punishment for a convicted crime It is time to revise this in my opinion. Just because I am in prison does not mean you can require me to work. If you can't afford to feed, clothe, house, and provide necessary medical services, release me. The fact that the state of Texas can deny air conditioning to inmates (when the temperature is ought to be enough for the US to require Texas to release all inmates in those conditions. How can states that are arguably in direct violation of basic human rights still have representation in the union is beyond me. » Refusing to install air conditioning is a matter not just of short-term cost savings, but of appearing tough on crime. State and local governments go to astonishing lengths to avoid installing air conditioning in prisons. In 2016, Louisiana spent over $1 million in legal bills in an attempt to avoid installing air conditioning on death row, an amount four times higher than the actual cost of installing air conditioning, according to an expert witness. Similarly, in 2014, the people of Jefferson Parish, LA only voted to build a new jail after local leaders promised there would be no air conditioning. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2019/06/18/air-conditioning/ https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2019/06/18/air-conditionin... It isn't just Texas. Prisoners throughout the country are malnourished and starving. It costs way too much to make a phone call so much so that public libraries offer assistance with phone calls. Democracy should not mean tyranny of the majority. I don't understand how this is controversial. If states and local governments are in violation of the constitution, they should automatically lose representation in the union.

markdown 5y ago

The result being that in 2021, slavery is still legal in the US. That's beyond abhorrent.