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The irony is that most of these towns depend entirely on tourists for theirs existence. Those tourist dollars depend on Airbnbs (no one is permitting new hotels

The irony is that most of these towns depend entirely on tourists for theirs existence. Those tourist dollars depend on Airbnbs (no one is permitting new hotels in these towns).

bamboozled 5y ago
I'd imagine these towns survived just fine without AirBnBs for the last hundreds of years?
- umeshunni 5y ago
  Yes and I'm sure they'll be content going back to the standards of living from hundreds of years ago.
  - mthoms 5y ago
    What does AirBnb have to do with the overall standard of living for mountain residents?
notatoad 5y ago
the tourist dollars do not in any way depend on AirBnB's because most of these resorts were built before AirBnB and were planned, approved, and built with a plan based on hotel capacity. the number of hotel beds and the lift capacity the resorts are tied to each other. similarly, the number of bars and other tourist amenities also gets decided bases on hotel capacity, and while that may have changed since AirBnB started ruining everything, for the most part it's the same as the resorts - they built enough restaurants and bars to service the number of guests the resort was built for. the AirBnB's are causing the resorts to run at over their designed capacity, making long lift lines for everybody, making the bars too crowded, and making the town's tourist experience worse in addition to making it worse for residents.
- judge2020 5y ago
  > these resorts were built before AirBnB Ever heart of VRBO (est. 1995) or the entire VRMA (est. 1985)?
  - alistairSH 5y ago
    Crested Butte was incorporated in 1880. Crested Butte Mountain, the ski resort, opened in 1960.
  - notatoad 5y ago
    There’s a reason airbnb is the recognized brand being discussed. Yes, competitors have existed before. But Airbnb made it popular, easy, and safe enough for any random person. Pre-airbnb scale of VRBO was barely a blip on the hotel market.

The irony is that most of these towns depend entirely on tourists for theirs existence. Those tourist dollars depend on Airbnbs (no one is permitting new hotels in these towns).

bamboozled 5y ago

I'd imagine these towns survived just fine without AirBnBs for the last hundreds of years?

umeshunni 5y ago
Yes and I'm sure they'll be content going back to the standards of living from hundreds of years ago.
- mthoms 5y ago
  What does AirBnb have to do with the overall standard of living for mountain residents?

notatoad 5y ago

the tourist dollars do not in any way depend on AirBnB's because most of these resorts were built before AirBnB and were planned, approved, and built with a plan based on hotel capacity. the number of hotel beds and the lift capacity the resorts are tied to each other. similarly, the number of bars and other tourist amenities also gets decided bases on hotel capacity, and while that may have changed since AirBnB started ruining everything, for the most part it's the same as the resorts - they built enough restaurants and bars to service the number of guests the resort was built for. the AirBnB's are causing the resorts to run at over their designed capacity, making long lift lines for everybody, making the bars too crowded, and making the town's tourist experience worse in addition to making it worse for residents.

judge2020 5y ago
> these resorts were built before AirBnB Ever heart of VRBO (est. 1995) or the entire VRMA (est. 1985)?
- alistairSH 5y ago
  Crested Butte was incorporated in 1880. Crested Butte Mountain, the ski resort, opened in 1960.
- notatoad 5y ago
  There’s a reason airbnb is the recognized brand being discussed. Yes, competitors have existed before. But Airbnb made it popular, easy, and safe enough for any random person. Pre-airbnb scale of VRBO was barely a blip on the hotel market.