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Keep an eye out for the Pinephone Pro. https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/ https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/ It's still not crazy-fast, but it's definitel

Keep an eye out for the Pinephone Pro. https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/ https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/ It's still not crazy-fast, but it's definitely more competitive than the original PinePhone. > Rockchip RK3399S 64bit SoC – 2x A72 and 4x A53 CPU cores @ 1.5GHz > ARM Mali T860 4x core GPU @ 500MHz > 4GB LPDDR4 @ 800MHz > 128GB eMMC flash storage > Optional micro SD card (SDXC up-to 2TB) > 6″ 1440 x 720 in-cell IPS with Gorilla Glass 4™ > 3MP Sony IMX258 main camera > 5MP OmniVision OV5640 front-facing camera > Samsung J7 form-factor 3000mAh > $399

GhettoComputers 5y ago
I mentioned non pine because it’s also very outdated and a terrible price for slightly less weak hardware. You could get a much better android phone for that price though. It’s not competitive for price to performance.
- linmob 5y ago
  Sigh. How could they? Have you ever considered economies of scale and that PINE64 don’t make extra money from preinstalling crapware that tracks you?
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Yes and I don’t care, I am not buying crappy hardware with “a made for Linux label” that doesn’t work. This is a $400 phone shaped device with an LCD that’s not even 1080 with a weak processor, emmc (an old iPhone 6S used nvme), single camera setup, all because I can’t uninstall apps but somehow know how to install and use mobile Linux. “Linux hardware” has no real world benefits but many more problems. Most people won’t buy it either, and rightfully so. This is why Linux on mobile will never be served by crappy hardware. It isn’t production ready and at best it’ll be really competitive for phones from 2015. I could at least expect a working phone, but I doubt they can install spyware when they can’t create an OS.
    - reginold 5y ago
      What is it you want out of using Linux as your phone? I don't understand.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        I like to do everything I can on the desktop. With iOS and Android they can both run CLI tools. It’s great. I am using iOS as Unix and Android as Linux, I’m not tethered to the idea of desktop Linux.
    - linmob 5y ago
      But PinePhone (and likely this is going to apply to the PinePhone Pro, too) is THE development platform for so many mobile Linux projects/distributions. Unless you go the Halium route (Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish OS, Droidian) and use an aged, often vulnerable vendor kernel, what’s the benefit of having multiple cameras, but none of it works? (I am not too sure about multiple camera support on Ubuntu Touch, afaik, the secondary camera of the Volla Phone is not being used, but I may be wrong there. Hardware features do not matter if there’s no software support. Also, at least the OG PinePhone works. It’s slow, screen-on battery life is lackluster, and some carriers are a pain, but it’s usable if you know what you’re doing.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        > But PinePhone (and likely this is going to apply to the PinePhone Pro, too) is THE development platform for so many mobile Linux projects/distributions. Linux is designed to be portable, so if it’s good software it’ll go to better phones. Nobody cares that Librem 5’s is THE development platform for phosh, open source is software, it holds no power to have worst hardware. > Hardware features do not matter if there’s no software support. That’s why Linux isn’t better than an android custom rom for modern devices. There are zero benefits, many more problems, no apps, and on worst more expensive hardware. Who benefits by using Pine or Linux mobile if they can run more on android or iOS? It’s why the hardware and software currently both do not matter, and the current dated hardware looks even worst when everyone knows it’ll go to better hardware; pine knew it was useless to stay on the hardware themselves. Support on owned or cheaper used devices is much more interesting, with unsupported hardware gaining new life rather than buying new devices that don’t work and are the equivalent of an untrained retiree becoming a perfect worker around retirement age.
ttarr 5y ago
>3MP Sony IMX258 main camera It's 13MP, I freaked out at first!
- vlmutolo 5y ago
  Oops! I'd fix it but apparently it's too late.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

I mentioned non pine because it’s also very outdated and a terrible price for slightly less weak hardware. You could get a much better android phone for that price though. It’s not competitive for price to performance.

linmob 5y ago
Sigh. How could they? Have you ever considered economies of scale and that PINE64 don’t make extra money from preinstalling crapware that tracks you?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Yes and I don’t care, I am not buying crappy hardware with “a made for Linux label” that doesn’t work. This is a $400 phone shaped device with an LCD that’s not even 1080 with a weak processor, emmc (an old iPhone 6S used nvme), single camera setup, all because I can’t uninstall apps but somehow know how to install and use mobile Linux. “Linux hardware” has no real world benefits but many more problems. Most people won’t buy it either, and rightfully so. This is why Linux on mobile will never be served by crappy hardware. It isn’t production ready and at best it’ll be really competitive for phones from 2015. I could at least expect a working phone, but I doubt they can install spyware when they can’t create an OS.
  - reginold 5y ago
    What is it you want out of using Linux as your phone? I don't understand.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      I like to do everything I can on the desktop. With iOS and Android they can both run CLI tools. It’s great. I am using iOS as Unix and Android as Linux, I’m not tethered to the idea of desktop Linux.
  - linmob 5y ago
    But PinePhone (and likely this is going to apply to the PinePhone Pro, too) is THE development platform for so many mobile Linux projects/distributions. Unless you go the Halium route (Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish OS, Droidian) and use an aged, often vulnerable vendor kernel, what’s the benefit of having multiple cameras, but none of it works? (I am not too sure about multiple camera support on Ubuntu Touch, afaik, the secondary camera of the Volla Phone is not being used, but I may be wrong there. Hardware features do not matter if there’s no software support. Also, at least the OG PinePhone works. It’s slow, screen-on battery life is lackluster, and some carriers are a pain, but it’s usable if you know what you’re doing.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      > But PinePhone (and likely this is going to apply to the PinePhone Pro, too) is THE development platform for so many mobile Linux projects/distributions. Linux is designed to be portable, so if it’s good software it’ll go to better phones. Nobody cares that Librem 5’s is THE development platform for phosh, open source is software, it holds no power to have worst hardware. > Hardware features do not matter if there’s no software support. That’s why Linux isn’t better than an android custom rom for modern devices. There are zero benefits, many more problems, no apps, and on worst more expensive hardware. Who benefits by using Pine or Linux mobile if they can run more on android or iOS? It’s why the hardware and software currently both do not matter, and the current dated hardware looks even worst when everyone knows it’ll go to better hardware; pine knew it was useless to stay on the hardware themselves. Support on owned or cheaper used devices is much more interesting, with unsupported hardware gaining new life rather than buying new devices that don’t work and are the equivalent of an untrained retiree becoming a perfect worker around retirement age.

ttarr 5y ago

>3MP Sony IMX258 main camera It's 13MP, I freaked out at first!

vlmutolo 5y ago
Oops! I'd fix it but apparently it's too late.