That sounds to me like a reasonable criticism and discussion to have. That wasn't the argument Berenson was putting forth. He was saying that some large number

That sounds to me like a reasonable criticism and discussion to have. That wasn't the argument Berenson was putting forth. He was saying that some large number of New Zealanders would be detained indefinitely in congregate settings purpose-built by the government. Again, I wish I could cite the specific things, but I cannot. I was left with the very strong impression that Berenson did not care about facts.