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This article is like the factcheckers fact checking a similar irrelevant thing to avoid having to investigate the real issue

phonypc 5y ago
What chart for October and November? Your link only goes to 24th September and says it's the latest release. Edit: this comment and others now appear to be nonsensical because OP essentially replaced their comment with an entirely different one.
IgorPartola 5y ago
Sorry I am confused about which removed chart I’m supposed to see here. If you are talking about “3. Weekly mortality rates for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) by vaccination status“ then it’s in no way clear to me that your conclusion is correct. First, the fully vaccinated line is the lowest there. I can definitely see a correlation between people getting their first shot, getting adventurous because they feel safe, and then catching COVID that they aren’t prepared for because they aren’t fully vaccinated. Also this chart isn’t separated by populations. That is the mortality rate isn’t “per 100,000 fully/partially/un-vaccinated”. It’s per 100,000 total. Which means that as the total number of unvaccinated people declines so does that particular mortality rate. If everyone was vaccinated and people still died from COVID then of course only the vaccinated would die, right?
nicoburns 5y ago
I'm seeing a slight upward trend in the "1 dose" line (indeed just crossing the "unvaccinated" line in a latest month), but the "2 doses" line is much lower than both, and doesn't seem to be changing much.
- guilhas 5y ago
  You're totally right, misread the chart. Edited all out unless I find the weekly report Still why would people with 1 dose be dying more than unvaccinated?
afavour 5y ago
> This article is like the factcheckers fact checking a similar irrelevant thing to avoid having to investigate the real issue No. This article is like factcheckers satirically explaining how statistics work to an author that clearly has no clue. In fact it’s not like that, it is that.

phonypc 5y ago

What chart for October and November? Your link only goes to 24th September and says it's the latest release. Edit: this comment and others now appear to be nonsensical because OP essentially replaced their comment with an entirely different one.

IgorPartola 5y ago

Sorry I am confused about which removed chart I’m supposed to see here. If you are talking about “3. Weekly mortality rates for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) by vaccination status“ then it’s in no way clear to me that your conclusion is correct. First, the fully vaccinated line is the lowest there. I can definitely see a correlation between people getting their first shot, getting adventurous because they feel safe, and then catching COVID that they aren’t prepared for because they aren’t fully vaccinated. Also this chart isn’t separated by populations. That is the mortality rate isn’t “per 100,000 fully/partially/un-vaccinated”. It’s per 100,000 total. Which means that as the total number of unvaccinated people declines so does that particular mortality rate. If everyone was vaccinated and people still died from COVID then of course only the vaccinated would die, right?

nicoburns 5y ago

I'm seeing a slight upward trend in the "1 dose" line (indeed just crossing the "unvaccinated" line in a latest month), but the "2 doses" line is much lower than both, and doesn't seem to be changing much.

guilhas 5y ago
You're totally right, misread the chart. Edited all out unless I find the weekly report Still why would people with 1 dose be dying more than unvaccinated?

afavour 5y ago

> This article is like the factcheckers fact checking a similar irrelevant thing to avoid having to investigate the real issue No. This article is like factcheckers satirically explaining how statistics work to an author that clearly has no clue. In fact it’s not like that, it is that.