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I think I found the study that the website you got this info from is referencing. The 2 deaths in the control group and the 1 in the vaccine group don't appear

I think I found the study that the website you got this info from is referencing. The 2 deaths in the control group and the 1 in the vaccine group don't appear to be attributed to covid. Honestly I can't find anywhere that says what they died from, which isn't unusual when explaining why participants did not complete a study. The researchers don't necessarily have access to that information and rely on what is reported to them. I'm not sure what you're trying to explain to me in your first paragraph. Edit: "Two BNT162b2 recipients died (one from arteriosclerosis, one from cardiac arrest), as did four placebo recipients (two from unknown causes, one from hemorrhagic stroke, and one from myocardial infarction). No deaths were considered by the investigators to be related to the vaccine or placebo. No Covid-19–associated deaths were observed. " It looks like pretty normal random chance and more people from the placebo group died anyway.

beagle3 5y ago
I was referring to a document on the fda website. I’ll find it later when on desktop.
beagle3 5y ago
See the material in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29373534 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29373534 All cause mortality: 21 died in vaccine arm, 17 in placebo arm. You may argue the numbers are very small, but (a) that's not trivial to state; (b) there is no evidence the pfizer vaccine reduces all cause mortality in a controlled trial - on the contrary, and (c) one may disregard all cause mortality and only care about corona mortality, but in that case (c1) the numbers are too small (1:2) and easily proven to be meaningless, and (c2) it's a bad metric, since -- taken ad absurdum -- a cyanide shot achieves 100% reduction in corona death.