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> This specific case is an example of rationing medical services; if we accept that's OK now, what's the next class of people no longer worthy of treatments? Th

by esarbe 5y ago

> This specific case is an example of rationing medical services; if we accept that's OK now, what's the next class of people no longer worthy of treatments? The obese? How about we extend it to anybody who'se been chronically ill for more than say, 6mo? They're such a burden on our "overloaded hospitals" already arent they? And so on. Being obese is not a choice. Being chronically ill is not a choice. Not getting vaccinated is a choice. There's no good reason not to get vaccinated and if sane people want to protect themselves from any unnecessary risk, ostracizing unvaccinated people is a very good approach.

h2odragon 5y ago
Everyone who successfully lost weight made some choice as to their obesity. Some people can't choose to be lighter, some can. That's one of the lovely chaotic aspects of humanity, we're all the same in that we're all different. There are many good reasons not to get vaccinated, some of them even officially recognized as medical exceptions. Having already had COVID is of at least as much if not more value than a vaccination; IMO, and the debates still rage there but few say natural immunity doesn't happen. In no way does a blanket policy of social shunning benefit individuals or society.
- esarbe 5y ago
  > There are many good reasons not to get vaccinated, some of them even officially recognized as medical exceptions. Having already had COVID is of at least as much if not more value than a vaccination; IMO, and the debates still rage there but few say natural immunity doesn't happen. If you recognize all this, I really wonder what exactly you are arguing against. All the Covid rules I'm familiar with treat a healed infection with covid the same as a vaccination. > In no way does a blanket policy of social shunning benefit individuals or society. If that was the case I would agree with you. But these are not blanket policies and so I'm left to wonder what exactly you object to.

by esarbe 5y ago

h2odragon 5y ago

Everyone who successfully lost weight made some choice as to their obesity. Some people can't choose to be lighter, some can. That's one of the lovely chaotic aspects of humanity, we're all the same in that we're all different. There are many good reasons not to get vaccinated, some of them even officially recognized as medical exceptions. Having already had COVID is of at least as much if not more value than a vaccination; IMO, and the debates still rage there but few say natural immunity doesn't happen. In no way does a blanket policy of social shunning benefit individuals or society.

esarbe 5y ago
> There are many good reasons not to get vaccinated, some of them even officially recognized as medical exceptions. Having already had COVID is of at least as much if not more value than a vaccination; IMO, and the debates still rage there but few say natural immunity doesn't happen. If you recognize all this, I really wonder what exactly you are arguing against. All the Covid rules I'm familiar with treat a healed infection with covid the same as a vaccination. > In no way does a blanket policy of social shunning benefit individuals or society. If that was the case I would agree with you. But these are not blanket policies and so I'm left to wonder what exactly you object to.