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So you don’t dream, when you read a book you don’t see those wonderful scenarios and you are unable to imagine things. The proof that it is a real phenomenon is

So you don’t dream, when you read a book you don’t see those wonderful scenarios and you are unable to imagine things. The proof that it is a real phenomenon is exactly in your inability to imagine things. I can imagine how people with Aphantasia experience the world. You, by your own admission, can’t imagine how other people experience it. To me imagination seems a pretty real and powerful ability.

ALittleLight 5y ago
I do dream. I just don't think people have access to the visual imagery system used in dreams while they're awake. I do read books, and, if visualizers were real, I'd expect that my enjoyment of books would be naturally greater. The narrative format of a book is similar to how I think and perceive of reality - as words. Books are more like a native format for thoughts and experiences than I'd expect them to be for visual minds. I don't think I ever said I can't imagine what it would be like to have visuals in my mental experience. I'm familiar with images and vision and expect it would be like being able to "see" things without seeing them or calling images up on a screen. That people who claim to be able to visualize don't seem to have that ability makes me doubt their claims. (see: bicycle example) I do have an imagination too and agree it is a real and powerful ability. I just doubt that other people actually have visual imagery in their imaginations.
- 9935c101ab17a66 5y ago
  > I do read books, and, if visualizers were real, I'd expect that my enjoyment of books would be naturally greater. What? This must be satire > The narrative format of a book is similar to how I think and perceive of reality - as words. What else could a book be but words? > Books are more like a native format for thoughts and experiences than I'd expect them to be for visual minds. You’ve read every book? And you claim to know what happens in my mind when I read? Also — have you ever noticed that literature often uses a lot of similes? You’ve never wondered what that’s about?
- phonypc 5y ago
  What do you make of visual descriptions in books? Did the author just randomly assign attributes like colour to things? Things that don't and never will exist?
- tigershark 5y ago
  > I do read books, and, if visualizers were real, I'd expect that my enjoyment of books would be naturally greater. Ok, you’re trolling.

ALittleLight 5y ago

I do dream. I just don't think people have access to the visual imagery system used in dreams while they're awake. I do read books, and, if visualizers were real, I'd expect that my enjoyment of books would be naturally greater. The narrative format of a book is similar to how I think and perceive of reality - as words. Books are more like a native format for thoughts and experiences than I'd expect them to be for visual minds. I don't think I ever said I can't imagine what it would be like to have visuals in my mental experience. I'm familiar with images and vision and expect it would be like being able to "see" things without seeing them or calling images up on a screen. That people who claim to be able to visualize don't seem to have that ability makes me doubt their claims. (see: bicycle example) I do have an imagination too and agree it is a real and powerful ability. I just doubt that other people actually have visual imagery in their imaginations.

9935c101ab17a66 5y ago
> I do read books, and, if visualizers were real, I'd expect that my enjoyment of books would be naturally greater. What? This must be satire > The narrative format of a book is similar to how I think and perceive of reality - as words. What else could a book be but words? > Books are more like a native format for thoughts and experiences than I'd expect them to be for visual minds. You’ve read every book? And you claim to know what happens in my mind when I read? Also — have you ever noticed that literature often uses a lot of similes? You’ve never wondered what that’s about?
phonypc 5y ago
What do you make of visual descriptions in books? Did the author just randomly assign attributes like colour to things? Things that don't and never will exist?
tigershark 5y ago
> I do read books, and, if visualizers were real, I'd expect that my enjoyment of books would be naturally greater. Ok, you’re trolling.