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Any important person can get red-carpet immigration treatment, why exactly does this particular case stink?

mrtksn 5y ago
Well, for once the CIA agent Graham Fuller[0] actively supported Gulen's green card application[1]. I don't know if Gulen was a CIA himself but there are ample clues that he is at least involved with the US government. CIA has a rich history of pulling such operations. That's Fascinating read actually. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_E._Fuller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_E._Fuller [1] https://www.politico.eu/article/graham-fuller-turke-issues-arrest-warrant-for-former-cia-official-over-coup-attempt/ https://www.politico.eu/article/graham-fuller-turke-issues-a...
- ryanlol 5y ago
  I don’t think this really supports the original claim. E: s/your/the/
  - mrtksn 5y ago
    What's my original claim?
    - ryanlol 5y ago
      “The way Fethullah Gülen got red-carpet immigration treatment in the US stinks to high heaven”
      - mrtksn 5y ago
        That's not me. You can tell by the way the letters in the username are arranged. My point is that the guy behind the coup has known ties to the CIA and in my opinion that stinks. Of course I wouldn't know if or what role CIA had in the coup but I find it fair to ask the questions due to the established links.
        ryanlol 5y ago
        My mistake, I was browsing through the user page so I didn’t see the name of the user I originally replied to. Sorry. However, I bet someone like Gülen would get red carpet immigration treatment even if the CIA wasn’t involved. I don’t necessarily doubt CIA involvement, I just doubt that his immigration treatment is indicative of anything.
        mrtksn 5y ago
        No worries! > However, I bet someone like Gülen would get red carpet immigration treatment even if the CIA wasn’t involved I guess we will never know that because CIA is indeed involved and we can't have an alternative reality :)
  - fmajid 5y ago
    He was given a green card as a "prominent educator" despite not having a degree himself. Anyone who's been through the US immigration wringer knows the process is very strict, and prima facie Gülen was not eligible. The only similar case that springs to mind is the maid of the former Indian vice-consul in NY's maid: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/maids-family-evacuated-to-us-bharara/article5477828.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/maids-fami... That also stinks to high heaven, and created a serious diplomatic incident with India.

Well, for once the CIA agent Graham Fuller[0] actively supported Gulen's green card application[1]. I don't know if Gulen was a CIA himself but there are ample clues that he is at least involved with the US government. CIA has a rich history of pulling such operations. That's Fascinating read actually. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_E._Fuller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_E._Fuller [1] https://www.politico.eu/article/graham-fuller-turke-issues-arrest-warrant-for-former-cia-official-over-coup-attempt/ https://www.politico.eu/article/graham-fuller-turke-issues-a...

ryanlol 5y ago
I don’t think this really supports the original claim. E: s/your/the/
- mrtksn 5y ago
  What's my original claim?
  - ryanlol 5y ago
    “The way Fethullah Gülen got red-carpet immigration treatment in the US stinks to high heaven”
    - mrtksn 5y ago
      That's not me. You can tell by the way the letters in the username are arranged. My point is that the guy behind the coup has known ties to the CIA and in my opinion that stinks. Of course I wouldn't know if or what role CIA had in the coup but I find it fair to ask the questions due to the established links.
      - ryanlol 5y ago
        My mistake, I was browsing through the user page so I didn’t see the name of the user I originally replied to. Sorry. However, I bet someone like Gülen would get red carpet immigration treatment even if the CIA wasn’t involved. I don’t necessarily doubt CIA involvement, I just doubt that his immigration treatment is indicative of anything.
        mrtksn 5y ago
        No worries! > However, I bet someone like Gülen would get red carpet immigration treatment even if the CIA wasn’t involved I guess we will never know that because CIA is indeed involved and we can't have an alternative reality :)
- fmajid 5y ago
  He was given a green card as a "prominent educator" despite not having a degree himself. Anyone who's been through the US immigration wringer knows the process is very strict, and prima facie Gülen was not eligible. The only similar case that springs to mind is the maid of the former Indian vice-consul in NY's maid: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/maids-family-evacuated-to-us-bharara/article5477828.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/maids-fami... That also stinks to high heaven, and created a serious diplomatic incident with India.