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Can you elaborate on what makes ICE vehicles "irredeemably terrible"? I can never understand what I'm missing. I have two: One is the cheapest car made by a ma

Can you elaborate on what makes ICE vehicles "irredeemably terrible"? I can never understand what I'm missing. I have two: One is the cheapest car made by a major manufacturer, and the cheapest trim model. I have no complaints about how it drives, I actually enjoy it. But on very hot days, the AC has trouble keeping up, and an electronic display has been only intermittently functional for some time. Naturally, being a special electronic display, it costs some $600 to replace, so I haven't bothered. On very long drives (5+ hours), it does wear me out more than the second car. The other is a crossover. It is slightly more comfortable than the hatchback. The AC is definitely powerful enough, even on hot days. It is much more pleasant to drive on long trips, I think primarily due to the lanekeeping and automatic cruise control. My only real complaint is too many controls are on the touchscreen - basically any AC controls other than temperature and fan speed. When I ask other EV owners, it seems like all they can say are "it's really quiet" and "it has amazing acceleration." But my cars are already very quiet (sometimes I am not sure if they are on) and I never need any more acceleration than I have - I avoid accelerating hard in general, since it wastes gas and I'm sure also battery. And given the problems I do have with my cars, it seems like the average EV is going to be worse - if I don't like touchscreen controls, surely buying a Tesla is not going to make me happy. So what is the factor EVs have that just blows ICEZs away for the average Joe? I just don't get it. EDIT: I guess another one they frequently mention is "not having to go to the gas station", but a five minute trip once a week isn't really causing me much hardship, especially if I'm going in to buy lottery tickets anyway.

downut 5y ago
Also, for example a Prius has an solid 450 mile range, takes less than 10 min to refuel to max range, which generally coincides with the passengers need to refuel and/or pit stop. Someone told me that a Prius can drive all day at 85-95 mph, 40+ mpg. A multi-state trip across the US West sounds ghastly in a Tesla, logistically speaking. My Tundra has many times been days out in the bush w/o a gas station, because I carry cans. I look at a Tesla as a lower functioning, and obvs from all the comments, much less reliable machine. People love them! Guffaws. (I have nothing against EVs as a technology: when I can buy a 450 mile range, 10 minute refuel, as reliable as my Prioids and Tundra EV, for a similar price, I will.)

downut 5y ago

Also, for example a Prius has an solid 450 mile range, takes less than 10 min to refuel to max range, which generally coincides with the passengers need to refuel and/or pit stop. Someone told me that a Prius can drive all day at 85-95 mph, 40+ mpg. A multi-state trip across the US West sounds ghastly in a Tesla, logistically speaking. My Tundra has many times been days out in the bush w/o a gas station, because I carry cans. I look at a Tesla as a lower functioning, and obvs from all the comments, much less reliable machine. People love them! Guffaws. (I have nothing against EVs as a technology: when I can buy a 450 mile range, 10 minute refuel, as reliable as my Prioids and Tundra EV, for a similar price, I will.)