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*progressive/liberal woman. To be fair, I believe Conservatives of female persuasion would find it a reasonably comfortable place (I may disagree with that per

*progressive/liberal woman. To be fair, I believe Conservatives of female persuasion would find it a reasonably comfortable place (I may disagree with that perspective, but we should ignore / pretend it doesn't exist at out peril. 76mil votes for Trump 2020 were not all cast by males. On more personal / closer to home note, a number of my exes would agree with Texas laws more than their/our own Ontario laws and culture. ).

evan_ 5y ago
Women have life-threatening complications at the same rate regardless of their political beliefs.
- finite_jest 5y ago
  From Wikipedia [1]: "The act contains exceptions in the case of medical emergency but not for rape or incest." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Heartbeat_Act&oldid=1056410279#Provisions_of_the_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Heartbeat_A...
wpietri 5y ago
It's even true for many conservative women. It's only relatively recently that no-compromise anti-abortion views came to dominate in US "conservative" spaces. Consider, for example, Republican Majority for Choice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Majority_for_Choice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Majority_for_Choice They shut down in 2018, a decision explained here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/abortion-rights-republican-party-women.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/abortion-rights-r... This was driven by a shift in US evangelicals. At one point being a pro-choice evangelical was a reasonable theological position. Now most evangelicals won't even admit that ever happened: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/18/the-biblical-view-thats-younger-than-the-happy-meal/ https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/18/the-bib...
troupe 5y ago
As someone who routinely crosses state lines, I can't imagine what type of situation would make the need to get an abortion such a common occurrence that it would be the sole factor in deciding what state you'd live in.
- NikolaNovak 5y ago
  That's a valid point on its own, however, I imagine for many, (rightly or wrongly) perceived stance of a state or institution toward abortion is a summarized proxy for stance toward women's rights. In other words, there's an assumed correlation that a place that so vehemently, consistently tries so darn tootin' hard to limit abortion rights, may have other similar perspectives vis-a-vis women's rights, if not minority rights in general.

evan_ 5y ago

Women have life-threatening complications at the same rate regardless of their political beliefs.

finite_jest 5y ago
From Wikipedia [1]: "The act contains exceptions in the case of medical emergency but not for rape or incest." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Heartbeat_Act&oldid=1056410279#Provisions_of_the_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Heartbeat_A...

wpietri 5y ago

It's even true for many conservative women. It's only relatively recently that no-compromise anti-abortion views came to dominate in US "conservative" spaces. Consider, for example, Republican Majority for Choice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Majority_for_Choice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Majority_for_Choice They shut down in 2018, a decision explained here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/abortion-rights-republican-party-women.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/abortion-rights-r... This was driven by a shift in US evangelicals. At one point being a pro-choice evangelical was a reasonable theological position. Now most evangelicals won't even admit that ever happened: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/18/the-biblical-view-thats-younger-than-the-happy-meal/ https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/18/the-bib...

troupe 5y ago

As someone who routinely crosses state lines, I can't imagine what type of situation would make the need to get an abortion such a common occurrence that it would be the sole factor in deciding what state you'd live in.

NikolaNovak 5y ago
That's a valid point on its own, however, I imagine for many, (rightly or wrongly) perceived stance of a state or institution toward abortion is a summarized proxy for stance toward women's rights. In other words, there's an assumed correlation that a place that so vehemently, consistently tries so darn tootin' hard to limit abortion rights, may have other similar perspectives vis-a-vis women's rights, if not minority rights in general.