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The price tag is ridiculous

by zcam 5y ago

McSinyx 5y ago
Seconded, I had to double check if it was really the euro symbol because I couldn't believe my eyes.
- rodneyzeng 5y ago
  Me too. I watched that symbol for about 1 min.
Hamuko 5y ago
Apparently they didn't lie about the "Seriously Over-Engineered" part.
duped 5y ago
The bulk of it is the custom keycaps (a keycap run is seriously expensive, especially if you're using weird key sizes), the enclosure, and the switches. They're probably being hosed by their suppliers too, since I can't imagine they have the money to invest in serious volume. That said the board looks seriously under-engineered. It's a bit ridiculous to invest so much in high quality switches and an enclosure built like a tank without spending any time on designing the board to withstand any forces, passing the buck onto their customers to make sure everything is soldered correctly... I'd be confident the enclosure survives a fall and lasts a lifetime but certainly not anything inside it.
- xondono 5y ago
  I’m not that sure. Nowadays you can get runs on the cheap, that’s why group buys are even possible in the DIY community. The fully machined aluminum case probably plays a part in there too.
  - duped 5y ago
    The fact you need group buys at all is evidence to how expensive it is. There really aren't that many places you can go for quality either.
    - xondono 5y ago
      I think you and I have different bars for what “expensive” means. Manufacturing things is expensive because of the fixed costs. To make it cheaper you need to make enough sets to dilute the fixed cost among N buyers. If at N=20 the price is already something people will pay, that’s not expensive IMO. The problem is that the case doesn’t work that way, because the costs of machined aluminium are pretty much linear with N.
- chevill 5y ago
  >They're probably being hosed by their suppliers too, since I can't imagine they have the money to invest in serious volume. There are no suppliers IIRC. He spends like 2 weeks making a set of keycaps by hand and that's why its so expensive. He also manufactures the cases himself.
  - duped 5y ago
    If that's what he's doing it sounds awfully cheap!
rbanffy 5y ago
I wonder if you could pay for it in NFTs /me ducks
13415 5y ago
It's one of those things I'd like to have but I'd be too embarrassed to own it even if I was a billionaire.

The price tag is ridiculous

by zcam 5y ago

The price tag is ridiculous

McSinyx 5y ago

Seconded, I had to double check if it was really the euro symbol because I couldn't believe my eyes.

rodneyzeng 5y ago
Me too. I watched that symbol for about 1 min.

Hamuko 5y ago

Apparently they didn't lie about the "Seriously Over-Engineered" part.

duped 5y ago

The bulk of it is the custom keycaps (a keycap run is seriously expensive, especially if you're using weird key sizes), the enclosure, and the switches. They're probably being hosed by their suppliers too, since I can't imagine they have the money to invest in serious volume. That said the board looks seriously under-engineered. It's a bit ridiculous to invest so much in high quality switches and an enclosure built like a tank without spending any time on designing the board to withstand any forces, passing the buck onto their customers to make sure everything is soldered correctly... I'd be confident the enclosure survives a fall and lasts a lifetime but certainly not anything inside it.

xondono 5y ago
I’m not that sure. Nowadays you can get runs on the cheap, that’s why group buys are even possible in the DIY community. The fully machined aluminum case probably plays a part in there too.
- duped 5y ago
  The fact you need group buys at all is evidence to how expensive it is. There really aren't that many places you can go for quality either.
  - xondono 5y ago
    I think you and I have different bars for what “expensive” means. Manufacturing things is expensive because of the fixed costs. To make it cheaper you need to make enough sets to dilute the fixed cost among N buyers. If at N=20 the price is already something people will pay, that’s not expensive IMO. The problem is that the case doesn’t work that way, because the costs of machined aluminium are pretty much linear with N.
chevill 5y ago
>They're probably being hosed by their suppliers too, since I can't imagine they have the money to invest in serious volume. There are no suppliers IIRC. He spends like 2 weeks making a set of keycaps by hand and that's why its so expensive. He also manufactures the cases himself.
- duped 5y ago
  If that's what he's doing it sounds awfully cheap!

rbanffy 5y ago

I wonder if you could pay for it in NFTs /me ducks

13415 5y ago

It's one of those things I'd like to have but I'd be too embarrassed to own it even if I was a billionaire.