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> If you agree with the media's interpretation, good for you. This sentence is rather condescending, and I believe it reveals something of your true intention

> If you agree with the media's interpretation, good for you. This sentence is rather condescending, and I believe it reveals something of your true intention here that you refuse to admit. There is something about Peng Suai’s post that you believe exonerates Chinese officials or the Chinese government in some way, but you are unwilling to explain what it is for some reason. > It's not up to me (or the media) to decide what interpretation is right: it's up to each individual. Humor me. What is the alternate interpretation of these events that you believe is missing from western media reports? What are the different interpretations that people may arrive at other than “the media’s interpretation” as you put it? > Letting people read the original post allow people to individually determine whether they agree with the media's interpretation. You seem not to agree with the “media’s interpretation”. Why not? Why in your opinion would anyone disagree with the media’s interpretation of events after reading Peng Shuai’s post?

FooBarWidget 5y ago
This "condescension" is wholly your reading. I meant literally what I said: if you agree with the media then great, I won't bother you and I'm happy for you. But here you go taking a sign of good faith and then interpreting it as an attack. It seems you are the one hiding something here. You are looking for "wrong thoughts" in others. All this is wholly abhorrent, shameful behavior and I condemn you for it. Look others have already said they found the extra information helpful. Respect the fact that others may find this information useful instead of going on a witch hunt, ok? You seem extremely angry at the possibility that others may think differently than you. You don't get to police of dictate others' thoughts.
- legutierr 5y ago
  Hmm. This is quite an overreaction to what I wrote. You “condemn me” for these comments I’ve posted on hacker news? Seriously? All I am asking for is an articulation of the alternative interpretation of events that you have said is lacking in media reports. I can only think of one reason why you would believe that my questions somehow show me to be “extremely angry” (when I am not) or that I want to “dictate others’ thoughts” (which I don’t) or that I am somehow on a “witch hunt” just because I am being persistent in responding to your comments (this is a two-way street). It is the same reason that you cannot articulate any other interpretation than the one found in media reports: In your own heart you know that there is only one reasonable interpretation of these events and of Peng Shuai’s writings. This poor woman was abused—certainly emotionally and possibly physically—by a senior member of the Chinese Communist Party, and officials of the Chinese government have taken extraordinary steps to cover it up. If there were any other reasonable interpretation you would say what it is!
  - FooBarWidget 5y ago
    I don't believe at all that you are being honest in saying that "all your are asking for is an articulation". You're trying to doxx me; i.e. a witch hunt, for possibly having wrong thoughts, where even not having an opinion is reason to suspect someone for having wrong thoughts. TLDR: no.
    - legutierr 5y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
  - mthoms 5y ago
    You're probably wasting your time :) Here's more context for what this user is peddling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344244 See also @honglilai on Twitter ("Hongli Lai") for more exclusively pro-China commentary. I'm afraid that engaging him in honest debate is an exercise in futility. (Note: I'm not attempting to dox the user, his Twitter handle/name can be found in his HN profile)
    - FooBarWidget 5y ago
      Exclusively pro-China commentary... such as "discriminations of Africans in Guangzhou is wrong"[1] and non-political commentary such as "healthcare workers in Shenzheng are getting 1 free meal a day, this is good progress in society"[2]? Come on man, aren't we supposed to be "only against the CCP and for the Chinese people"? [1] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1256923741940068353?s=20 https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1256923741940068353?s=2... [2] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1454718292191596551?s=20 https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1454718292191596551?s=2...
      - mthoms 5y ago
        Just answer the question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29362031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29362031

FooBarWidget 5y ago

This "condescension" is wholly your reading. I meant literally what I said: if you agree with the media then great, I won't bother you and I'm happy for you. But here you go taking a sign of good faith and then interpreting it as an attack. It seems you are the one hiding something here. You are looking for "wrong thoughts" in others. All this is wholly abhorrent, shameful behavior and I condemn you for it. Look others have already said they found the extra information helpful. Respect the fact that others may find this information useful instead of going on a witch hunt, ok? You seem extremely angry at the possibility that others may think differently than you. You don't get to police of dictate others' thoughts.

legutierr 5y ago
Hmm. This is quite an overreaction to what I wrote. You “condemn me” for these comments I’ve posted on hacker news? Seriously? All I am asking for is an articulation of the alternative interpretation of events that you have said is lacking in media reports. I can only think of one reason why you would believe that my questions somehow show me to be “extremely angry” (when I am not) or that I want to “dictate others’ thoughts” (which I don’t) or that I am somehow on a “witch hunt” just because I am being persistent in responding to your comments (this is a two-way street). It is the same reason that you cannot articulate any other interpretation than the one found in media reports: In your own heart you know that there is only one reasonable interpretation of these events and of Peng Shuai’s writings. This poor woman was abused—certainly emotionally and possibly physically—by a senior member of the Chinese Communist Party, and officials of the Chinese government have taken extraordinary steps to cover it up. If there were any other reasonable interpretation you would say what it is!
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  I don't believe at all that you are being honest in saying that "all your are asking for is an articulation". You're trying to doxx me; i.e. a witch hunt, for possibly having wrong thoughts, where even not having an opinion is reason to suspect someone for having wrong thoughts. TLDR: no.
  - legutierr 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
- mthoms 5y ago
  You're probably wasting your time :) Here's more context for what this user is peddling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344244 See also @honglilai on Twitter ("Hongli Lai") for more exclusively pro-China commentary. I'm afraid that engaging him in honest debate is an exercise in futility. (Note: I'm not attempting to dox the user, his Twitter handle/name can be found in his HN profile)
  - FooBarWidget 5y ago
    Exclusively pro-China commentary... such as "discriminations of Africans in Guangzhou is wrong"[1] and non-political commentary such as "healthcare workers in Shenzheng are getting 1 free meal a day, this is good progress in society"[2]? Come on man, aren't we supposed to be "only against the CCP and for the Chinese people"? [1] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1256923741940068353?s=20 https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1256923741940068353?s=2... [2] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1454718292191596551?s=20 https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1454718292191596551?s=2...
    - mthoms 5y ago
      Just answer the question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29362031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29362031