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From the link below we see evidence that the chance of dying from Covid-19 is multiple times bigger for the unvaccinated than for the vaccinated. I wonder what

From the link below we see evidence that the chance of dying from Covid-19 is multiple times bigger for the unvaccinated than for the vaccinated. I wonder what kind of "smart" person ignores this evidence and puts their life at risk at will? Hey my chance of dying from Covid is 10 times bigger because I don't get vaccinated, but I won't because I believe an even worse fate awaits me if I do. What do they think that worse fate is? About the vaccine not giving us herd-immunity, of course it doesn't if the herd refuses to get vaccinated. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-co...

Markoff 5y ago
these calculations always include risk groups, without them it would make look vaccine much less appealing odds of dying from COVID for vaxxed non risk groups are pretty much same as for vaxxed non risk group, 10 times zero is still a zero nobody is denying vaccine is helping the risk groups, but there is hardly any benefit for people not at risk (healthy weight, no chronic disease)
- Markoff 5y ago
  correction: odds of dying from COVID for unvaxxed non risk groups are pretty much same as for vaxxed non risk group, 10 times zero is still a zero
zerocount 5y ago
The chance of dying of Covid-19 while being unvaccinated is very low. The benefit of being vaccinated is a further reduction in the chance of dying if infected and a reduction in symptom severity if infected. There is still a very low chance of severe symptoms and/or death if infected while being vaccinated. Also, there have been cases of people dying within weeks of receiving a vaccine dose; I won't comment on what that implies. I'm not vaccinated. I did get Covid-19 and recovered well. The only lasting effect seems to be that I smell an anti-freeze odor at times. I don't feel like I was putting my life at risk by not getting vaccinated, in fact, I feel even more strongly against getting a vaccine that appears to be more beneficial to those who are at high risk of severe symptoms and/or death than the general population. In any case, I respect others' opinions on the matter and don't judge them for their decisions on vaccination. The fact that vaccinated people can still get infected and possibly transmit the virus to others seems to indicate we should stop focussing on a general solution and focus on those in high risk categories. The Covid-19 pill seems like a good first step in that direction.
freeflight 5y ago
> From the link below we see evidence that the chance of dying from Covid-19 is multiple times bigger for the unvaccinated than for the vaccinated. That depends on a lot of factors, among them the virus strain, the age group or how long ago the vaccinations happened. Germany is already having death streaks in pension homes again, were vaccination rates of the elderly are 100% [0]. But those 100% happened earlier this year, since then the vaccine protection has heavily diminished. [0] https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/mainz/corona-ausbruch-in-seniorenheim-osthofen-wird-geprueft-100.html https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/mainz/corona-a...

Markoff 5y ago

these calculations always include risk groups, without them it would make look vaccine much less appealing odds of dying from COVID for vaxxed non risk groups are pretty much same as for vaxxed non risk group, 10 times zero is still a zero nobody is denying vaccine is helping the risk groups, but there is hardly any benefit for people not at risk (healthy weight, no chronic disease)

Markoff 5y ago
correction: odds of dying from COVID for unvaxxed non risk groups are pretty much same as for vaxxed non risk group, 10 times zero is still a zero

zerocount 5y ago

The chance of dying of Covid-19 while being unvaccinated is very low. The benefit of being vaccinated is a further reduction in the chance of dying if infected and a reduction in symptom severity if infected. There is still a very low chance of severe symptoms and/or death if infected while being vaccinated. Also, there have been cases of people dying within weeks of receiving a vaccine dose; I won't comment on what that implies. I'm not vaccinated. I did get Covid-19 and recovered well. The only lasting effect seems to be that I smell an anti-freeze odor at times. I don't feel like I was putting my life at risk by not getting vaccinated, in fact, I feel even more strongly against getting a vaccine that appears to be more beneficial to those who are at high risk of severe symptoms and/or death than the general population. In any case, I respect others' opinions on the matter and don't judge them for their decisions on vaccination. The fact that vaccinated people can still get infected and possibly transmit the virus to others seems to indicate we should stop focussing on a general solution and focus on those in high risk categories. The Covid-19 pill seems like a good first step in that direction.

freeflight 5y ago

> From the link below we see evidence that the chance of dying from Covid-19 is multiple times bigger for the unvaccinated than for the vaccinated. That depends on a lot of factors, among them the virus strain, the age group or how long ago the vaccinations happened. Germany is already having death streaks in pension homes again, were vaccination rates of the elderly are 100% [0]. But those 100% happened earlier this year, since then the vaccine protection has heavily diminished. [0] https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/mainz/corona-ausbruch-in-seniorenheim-osthofen-wird-geprueft-100.html https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/mainz/corona-a...