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I remember early articles about how long virus stay on different surfaces. 30 days on metal, 20 days on plastic, 10 days on wood, etc. Also governments tried to

I remember early articles about how long virus stay on different surfaces. 30 days on metal, 20 days on plastic, 10 days on wood, etc. Also governments tried to convince as that we should wear masks alone in woods or cannot go out in night. Same governments told us that vaccination end spreading virus. It was all lies but still most people believe those lies because propaganda of fear is strong. Today... We still don't know origin of virus. Seriously, this is total resignation on common sense, science, logic, rationalism, etc. It is all about emotions and feelings.

sofixa 5y ago
> It was all lies but still most people believe those lies because propaganda of fear is strong. No, it was all evolving knowledge of an ongoing situation involving an unknown virus, with the initial outbreak happening in a not very transparent country. Many people haven't bothered to keep up with the latest information, even with the efforts of local health authorities to bring that information to them. > We still don't know origin of virus Yes, and? Would that change anything in our understanding of it and how to combat it? Or do you just need someone to point s finger at and say it's all been their fault? Even in that case we'd still have to combat spread and hospitalisations ( which vaccines help with). In any case, i personally doubt we'll have a conclusive origin story of the virus. It has been more or less ( as much as possible) conclusively confirmed that it came from around a Wuhan wet market, but it'd be pretty much impossible to retrace the steps of random animals there and the event(s) that passed it to the initial humans after so much time has passed and so many have died.
- t0bia_s 5y ago
  Of course we need to know origin of virus. Man made virus is bioweapon. No matter if you think it is conspiracy theory or not. We need proofs and transparency both on virus origin and vaccine development.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    It's only a bioweapon if it was made on purpose with the goal of using it as a weapon, and nobody serious is suggesting that. If it was made in a lab to study coronaviruses, as some people claim, it's not a bioweapon, it's a biomistake, biotragedy, bionegligence if you will, but not a weapon.
    - t0bia_s 5y ago
      Why do you think that anyone serious should suggest that? Who is serious for you? Gonverments? Google? TV? It could be just business. We have never ever before vaccine on new virus after 3 months. Censoring any other opinions than "in vax we trust" agenda in serious media just support this narrative.

sofixa 5y ago

> It was all lies but still most people believe those lies because propaganda of fear is strong. No, it was all evolving knowledge of an ongoing situation involving an unknown virus, with the initial outbreak happening in a not very transparent country. Many people haven't bothered to keep up with the latest information, even with the efforts of local health authorities to bring that information to them. > We still don't know origin of virus Yes, and? Would that change anything in our understanding of it and how to combat it? Or do you just need someone to point s finger at and say it's all been their fault? Even in that case we'd still have to combat spread and hospitalisations ( which vaccines help with). In any case, i personally doubt we'll have a conclusive origin story of the virus. It has been more or less ( as much as possible) conclusively confirmed that it came from around a Wuhan wet market, but it'd be pretty much impossible to retrace the steps of random animals there and the event(s) that passed it to the initial humans after so much time has passed and so many have died.

t0bia_s 5y ago
Of course we need to know origin of virus. Man made virus is bioweapon. No matter if you think it is conspiracy theory or not. We need proofs and transparency both on virus origin and vaccine development.
- sofixa 5y ago
  It's only a bioweapon if it was made on purpose with the goal of using it as a weapon, and nobody serious is suggesting that. If it was made in a lab to study coronaviruses, as some people claim, it's not a bioweapon, it's a biomistake, biotragedy, bionegligence if you will, but not a weapon.
  - t0bia_s 5y ago
    Why do you think that anyone serious should suggest that? Who is serious for you? Gonverments? Google? TV? It could be just business. We have never ever before vaccine on new virus after 3 months. Censoring any other opinions than "in vax we trust" agenda in serious media just support this narrative.