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Until Apple's OS reinstalls Candy Crush again after you remove it, they haven't sunk to the anywhere near the level of Microsoft.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
Don't some Linux distros come with games pre-installed? I mean...it's the same thing really.
3np 5y ago
And until they kill babies... then what? Less BS than Microsoft is not really an achievement.
- GeekyBear 5y ago
  Is this the same Microsoft that decided to change their whole history of user interaction so that clicking the X to dismiss the Windows 10 Update nag screen would be taken as assent? >Microsoft finally admits that its malware-style Get Windows 10 upgrade campaign went too far https://www.extremetech.com/computing/241587-microsoft-finally-admits-malware-style-get-windows-10-upgrade-campaign-went-far https://www.extremetech.com/computing/241587-microsoft-final... Not to mention the part where they kept blocking every hack users found to keep that nag screen from popping up again after you told it no. Sorry, but Apple is just nowhere near as egregious as Microsoft is.
  - sidr 5y ago
    The comment you are replying to is not suggesting that Apple is as egregious as Microsoft. Shittiness can be measured on absolute terms - one doesn't have to accept the lowest bar as the standard.
    - 3np 5y ago
      This. It’s not like Microsoft sets the standard for what’s acceptable for Apple.
    - cgriswald 5y ago
      The larger context is that the article is written by an iOS developer working at Microsoft. Comparing his complaints against Microsoft's own practice is fair game even if he's not speaking directly for the company. > Shittiness can be measured on absolute terms... Relative shittiness is a much more relevant factor for consumers, who are constrained by what is actually available on the market. Consumers have to either accept the lowest bar as a standard or not participate in the market. Absolute shittiness as a measurement can provide a good argument for regulating the market.
  - petepete 5y ago
    This caught out my mum who'd been dismissing it for months. The Windows 10 upgrade failed and I had to go around and fix it. Had I not been available it'd have required an expensive visit to a computer repair shop.
vbezhenar 5y ago
That did not happen to me. Windows installs some promoted apps when I installed it, I removed those and since then Windows did not install a single app.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

Don't some Linux distros come with games pre-installed? I mean...it's the same thing really.

3np 5y ago

And until they kill babies... then what? Less BS than Microsoft is not really an achievement.

GeekyBear 5y ago
Is this the same Microsoft that decided to change their whole history of user interaction so that clicking the X to dismiss the Windows 10 Update nag screen would be taken as assent? >Microsoft finally admits that its malware-style Get Windows 10 upgrade campaign went too far https://www.extremetech.com/computing/241587-microsoft-finally-admits-malware-style-get-windows-10-upgrade-campaign-went-far https://www.extremetech.com/computing/241587-microsoft-final... Not to mention the part where they kept blocking every hack users found to keep that nag screen from popping up again after you told it no. Sorry, but Apple is just nowhere near as egregious as Microsoft is.
- sidr 5y ago
  The comment you are replying to is not suggesting that Apple is as egregious as Microsoft. Shittiness can be measured on absolute terms - one doesn't have to accept the lowest bar as the standard.
  - 3np 5y ago
    This. It’s not like Microsoft sets the standard for what’s acceptable for Apple.
  - cgriswald 5y ago
    The larger context is that the article is written by an iOS developer working at Microsoft. Comparing his complaints against Microsoft's own practice is fair game even if he's not speaking directly for the company. > Shittiness can be measured on absolute terms... Relative shittiness is a much more relevant factor for consumers, who are constrained by what is actually available on the market. Consumers have to either accept the lowest bar as a standard or not participate in the market. Absolute shittiness as a measurement can provide a good argument for regulating the market.
- petepete 5y ago
  This caught out my mum who'd been dismissing it for months. The Windows 10 upgrade failed and I had to go around and fix it. Had I not been available it'd have required an expensive visit to a computer repair shop.

vbezhenar 5y ago

That did not happen to me. Windows installs some promoted apps when I installed it, I removed those and since then Windows did not install a single app.