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The Apple Ecosystem. I've invested a lot of hard earned money into it. I have an ipad, iphone, a macbook air, an apple watch, airpods pro and a mac mini. Bough

The Apple Ecosystem. I've invested a lot of hard earned money into it. I have an ipad, iphone, a macbook air, an apple watch, airpods pro and a mac mini. Bought these over the years. Just the way these things work so cohesively to me is pure magic. The attention to detail on extremely minor things is pretty impressive. I haven't had to think about "doing" anything with tech ever since I bought apple products. You just remember to charge them and everything just works. I come from a pure windows / android background and I was mindblown by how convenient things were. I'd highly recommend Apple devices to friends and family.

muzani 5y ago
There are some things I like, but never fell in love with them. iPhones died too fast. MBP had weird display glitches because of the lighting adjustment. The touch bar was less useful than a touchscreen. Keyboard is so bad that it's often the deal-breaker when trying to buy a macbook. It might be useful if I could just plug an external keyboard into it, but I need an adapter for that now and the adapter gets hot with all the things I put on it. I mean the competition does a lot of things badly, but Apple products are badly designed too.
- stillblue 5y ago
  I managed to dodge every single bad apple product. I never bought MBP's only Airs. No touchbars. No shitty keyboard. The products I've owned / own had zero problems maybe cos they're a subset of Apple products that do not have problems. What do you mean iphones die too fast? My experience has been quite the opposite.
thn-gap 5y ago
At the same time, the interoperability of these devices outside the ecosystem is stupidly useless. Just this year I figured out that I can't send an image without internet from my Android phone to the iPad. I could receive images over Bluetooth between two phones more than 10 years ago, but not today with the iPad. I also can't seem to transfer images or videos from my Windows PC to the iPad with just a cable.
feanaro 5y ago
I would and do highly recommend to my friends and family to stay away from Apple. Computers are meant to be interoperable and not locked into a single monopolistic system which then had the power to make your life awful. The attention to detail is also overstated when Apple cannot get basic things right. I have an iPhone for testing stuff and recently a numbered badge appeared on one of those built-in music related apps. It wasn't obvious what the number referred to, and to find out, I had to dig deep on the web on some user forums. The reason turned out to be that Apple pushed some kind of updates (e.g. new sound effects or something like that), which are hidden somewhere 10 menus deep. To dismiss the number badges, you had to go and open each of the effects from about a hundred of them, because there is no indicator which ones are new. There is apparently no other way to dismiss the number badge. A few days ago another badge appeared on a different app. When I open the app, it has no content inside and no menus. So now I have a little 1 there that simply cannot be dismissed as far as I can tell. This noise makes all of the badges useless. If this is not bad design, I don't know what is. Apple, not even once.
- 9935c101ab17a66 5y ago
  > The attention to detail is also overstated when Apple cannot get basic things right. I have an iPhone for testing stuff and recently a numbered badge appeared on one of those built-in music related apps. It wasn't obvious what the number referred to, and to find out, I had to dig deep on the web on some user forums. The reason turned out to be that Apple pushed some kind of updates (e.g. new sound effects or something like that), which are hidden somewhere 10 menus deep. To dismiss the number badges, you had to go and open each of the effects from about a hundred of them, because there is no indicator which ones are new. There is apparently no other way to dismiss the number badge. I'm actually really curious what this was. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'm incredibly familiar with apple devices and I can't think of anything that matches what you've described. I also wanted to share a tip with you — you can turn off app badges in Settings -> Notifications -> Some App. With iOS 15, you can also create a 'focus mode' where app badges are disabled, and just have it scheduled to be on all the time. If this sounds appealing, let me know and I'll walk you through it.
  - 5y ago

muzani 5y ago

There are some things I like, but never fell in love with them. iPhones died too fast. MBP had weird display glitches because of the lighting adjustment. The touch bar was less useful than a touchscreen. Keyboard is so bad that it's often the deal-breaker when trying to buy a macbook. It might be useful if I could just plug an external keyboard into it, but I need an adapter for that now and the adapter gets hot with all the things I put on it. I mean the competition does a lot of things badly, but Apple products are badly designed too.

stillblue 5y ago
I managed to dodge every single bad apple product. I never bought MBP's only Airs. No touchbars. No shitty keyboard. The products I've owned / own had zero problems maybe cos they're a subset of Apple products that do not have problems. What do you mean iphones die too fast? My experience has been quite the opposite.

thn-gap 5y ago

At the same time, the interoperability of these devices outside the ecosystem is stupidly useless. Just this year I figured out that I can't send an image without internet from my Android phone to the iPad. I could receive images over Bluetooth between two phones more than 10 years ago, but not today with the iPad. I also can't seem to transfer images or videos from my Windows PC to the iPad with just a cable.

feanaro 5y ago

I would and do highly recommend to my friends and family to stay away from Apple. Computers are meant to be interoperable and not locked into a single monopolistic system which then had the power to make your life awful. The attention to detail is also overstated when Apple cannot get basic things right. I have an iPhone for testing stuff and recently a numbered badge appeared on one of those built-in music related apps. It wasn't obvious what the number referred to, and to find out, I had to dig deep on the web on some user forums. The reason turned out to be that Apple pushed some kind of updates (e.g. new sound effects or something like that), which are hidden somewhere 10 menus deep. To dismiss the number badges, you had to go and open each of the effects from about a hundred of them, because there is no indicator which ones are new. There is apparently no other way to dismiss the number badge. A few days ago another badge appeared on a different app. When I open the app, it has no content inside and no menus. So now I have a little 1 there that simply cannot be dismissed as far as I can tell. This noise makes all of the badges useless. If this is not bad design, I don't know what is. Apple, not even once.

9935c101ab17a66 5y ago
> The attention to detail is also overstated when Apple cannot get basic things right. I have an iPhone for testing stuff and recently a numbered badge appeared on one of those built-in music related apps. It wasn't obvious what the number referred to, and to find out, I had to dig deep on the web on some user forums. The reason turned out to be that Apple pushed some kind of updates (e.g. new sound effects or something like that), which are hidden somewhere 10 menus deep. To dismiss the number badges, you had to go and open each of the effects from about a hundred of them, because there is no indicator which ones are new. There is apparently no other way to dismiss the number badge. I'm actually really curious what this was. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'm incredibly familiar with apple devices and I can't think of anything that matches what you've described. I also wanted to share a tip with you — you can turn off app badges in Settings -> Notifications -> Some App. With iOS 15, you can also create a 'focus mode' where app badges are disabled, and just have it scheduled to be on all the time. If this sounds appealing, let me know and I'll walk you through it.
- 5y ago