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Because AWS doesn’t actually want to collect the egress fees. They want you to avoid egress entirely for high-value services, which has all kinds of excellent i
by amluto 5y ago
Because AWS doesn’t actually want to collect the egress fees. They want you to avoid egress entirely for high-value services, which has all kinds of excellent implications for AWS:
Third party SaaS offerings that move large amounts of data are effectively forced to host in AWS.
Want a small number of high-value servers (e.g. big GPUs, etc) in your own data center or colo to use for non-availability-critical purposes integrated with the rest of your AWS stack? You’d better price in egress!
Want to gradually transition to a competing cloud? Good luck, egress will bankrupt you before you finish the transition.
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- colordrops 5y agoThat still sounds like price fixing, but for a different purpose.
- StopHammoTime 5y agoamluto is spot on. AWS don't want to make money off of egress, they want to make it non-viable to move anything out of AWS that isn't being served to an end consumer.
- _hcuq 5y agoTime to move hosting back in house.
- ignoramous 5y agoIt is because amulo has a point is why Cloudflare stands a good chance to disrupt AWS in at least few market segments, if not all. More: https://stratechery.com/2021/cloudflares-disruption/ https://stratechery.com/2021/cloudflares-disruption/
- torginus 5y agoI wonder, if you made a video streaming app on top of AWS you could negotiate a significant reduction of fees, since you're not ruining their business by transferring out valuable data to competitors. And if that's the case, I wonder if that constitutes a breach of net neutrality in practice, since in practice, a major part of bandwidth costs will depend on what kind of information you are transferring.
- nielsole 5y agoMy suspicion is that not even Netflix gets the egress out of AWS at commodity market rate. The vast majority of traffic will be handled by their own CDN
- KptMarchewa 5y agoYou don't need to speculate. https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/
- nielsole 5y agoYour link has no information about their egress pricing with AWS which is the only thing I was speculating about.
- jedberg 5y agoNetflix doesn't pay anything for egress of video because it doesn't serve any video from AWS. As for everything else, AWS offers tiered pricing for everyone and it's the same for everyone. They just don't publish the tiers at that level, but yes, Netflix pays less than you probably do because they're in the higher tier -- but they pay the same as all the other companies at that tier.
- nielsole 5y agoThanks! I had been curious about that for quite some time now.
- dwild 5y ago> Want to gradually transition to a competing cloud? Good luck, egress will bankrupt you before you finish the transition. They do offer the Snowball to lower transfer out cost, they also offer Direct Connect which is more convenient and can be cheaper. For sure it won't be cheap, but being able to transfer 100 TB for less than 3k isn't too bad. Storing that on S3 would cost you nearly that per month... if you can't spare a month of cost to migrate, you may want to rethink your pricing.
- DevNullDevice 5y agoFor Direct Connect, they still charge for egress.
- dwild 5y ago> For Direct Connect, they still charge for egress. They do for both Snowball and Direct Connect, but it's 2 cents per GB, which is what I used to give the 3k estimate.