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On reflection, I'd add that the casting/actors of the series are actually pretty good and the quality of the production is very good. I suppose my biggest peev

On reflection, I'd add that the casting/actors of the series are actually pretty good and the quality of the production is very good. I suppose my biggest peeve comes from having read the novels first. Which is normal for TV/movie adaptations of novels. Which is why I didn't start reading The Expanse novels until I'd watched the TV season treated by each novel. That made the TV series much better IMHO.

throwntoday 5y ago
Seldon and Empire are the only good actors cast IMO. The series seems more interested in shoehorning diversity and anti-establishment rhetoric rather than painting the political odyssey that Asimov imagined. I am imensely dissappointed with the show both as an interpretation of his work and standalone sci-fi series.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >The series seems more interested in shoehorning diversity and anti-establishment rhetoric rather than painting the political odyssey that Asimov imagined. I am imensely dissappointed with the show both as an interpretation of his work and standalone sci-fi series. I didn't take that from the series at all. Rather, I found it to be overly moralistic, with references to the destructiveness of religious fervor and a lack of vision WRT the vastness of the galactic empire envisioned by Asimov. I'd say that rather than being anti-establishment, it's much more pro-establishment, where "the establishment" are the ones on the inside trying to good, while the corrupt ones do evil to their self-righteous, morally superior betters and equally evil outsiders, horrifying all the "right-thinking" people. It's pretty standard TV fare which, sadly, gives short shrift to Asimov's smart and insightful view of humans and how they wield and are molded by power. I'll watch it, both for the car crash in-slow-motion reaction of how they butcher the story, and for the pleasure of knowing Apple won't get a nickel out me for doing so.

throwntoday 5y ago

Seldon and Empire are the only good actors cast IMO. The series seems more interested in shoehorning diversity and anti-establishment rhetoric rather than painting the political odyssey that Asimov imagined. I am imensely dissappointed with the show both as an interpretation of his work and standalone sci-fi series.

nobody9999 5y ago
>The series seems more interested in shoehorning diversity and anti-establishment rhetoric rather than painting the political odyssey that Asimov imagined. I am imensely dissappointed with the show both as an interpretation of his work and standalone sci-fi series. I didn't take that from the series at all. Rather, I found it to be overly moralistic, with references to the destructiveness of religious fervor and a lack of vision WRT the vastness of the galactic empire envisioned by Asimov. I'd say that rather than being anti-establishment, it's much more pro-establishment, where "the establishment" are the ones on the inside trying to good, while the corrupt ones do evil to their self-righteous, morally superior betters and equally evil outsiders, horrifying all the "right-thinking" people. It's pretty standard TV fare which, sadly, gives short shrift to Asimov's smart and insightful view of humans and how they wield and are molded by power. I'll watch it, both for the car crash in-slow-motion reaction of how they butcher the story, and for the pleasure of knowing Apple won't get a nickel out me for doing so.