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Tell HN: Why Foundation (TV series) sucks. And doesn't.
Note: Spoilers below.
As someone who has enjoyed the worlds of Isaac Asimov's fiction for many years, I was excited to watch the TV adaptation[0] of his Foundation series.
I expected a good deal of re-imagining of the original novels, as Asimov's story spans centuries and recasting the series every few episodes would be both challenging and wouldn't allow viewers to invest in specific characters -- which is a big no no in television.
I also expected some story lines to be combined with others, and some to be excised, in order to maintain a reasonable (for TV) number of plot lines in the story being told.
However, I did not expect the show to veer so far from the novels as to completely change the narrative of the story.
That Salvor Hardin was gender-switched was perfectly fine, and even the reveal of the Second Foundation (and, even more, the reveal of its location) didn't really bother me all that much. Making Hardin an inexperienced teenager with gifts of perception and a penchant for violent outbursts rather than a talented and experienced bureaucrat most remembered for "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent", was rather lazy IMHO.
However, I found the complete redefinition of the history, origin and level of maturity of Gaal Dornick rather insulting and offensive to the character.
Making the "emperor" three in a line of clones dating back half a millenium was also unexpected, but not that surprising given the casting/relateability issues mentioned above.
I suppose that it seemed necessary (from a TV perspective) to paint the Galactic Empire as evil, pernicious and grasping, in order to create the conditions for a hated regime that deserved to fail, rather than the more banal (and likely, but less evocative of immediate drama) scenario of an enormous, sessile entity drowning in its own bureaucracy.
And ignoring the (incredibly obvious) fact that the Foundation on Terminus was a source of technological and engineering expertise and treating it as a rag-tag group of semi-refugees without resources or the ability to interact politically (which, again was sabotaged by the need to make the empire evil) with its powerful, but technologically inferior neighbors, weakened one of the overarching premises of the novels: that the Foundation was a conservative force for knowledge retention and reducing the 10,000 years of chaos to just 1,000.
And ignoring the "Three Laws of Robotics" in having Demerzel assassinate those who might challenge the primacy of the emperor was quite disturbing as well.
As such, I find that, unlike Peter Jackson's treatment of The Lord of the Rings, Foundation is more a new story loosely based in Asimov's universe than a reasonably faithful adaptation of the novels.
All that said, the story line presented isn't too terrible, and while it does seem to cater more to those with a lust for emotional angst and manufactured drama. It's not too bad.
Assuming the series gets picked up for a second season, I'll watch it.
That said, Asimov's Foundation series[1] is wonderful in its storytelling and scope. Even the follow on novels by others are mostly pretty good too. I highly recommend reading those. Although perhaps not until after watching the TV "adaptation."
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series
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- nobody9999 5y agoOn reflection, I'd add that the casting/actors of the series are actually pretty good and the quality of the production is very good. I suppose my biggest peeve comes from having read the novels first. Which is normal for TV/movie adaptations of novels. Which is why I didn't start reading The Expanse novels until I'd watched the TV season treated by each novel. That made the TV series much better IMHO.
- throwntoday 5y agoSeldon and Empire are the only good actors cast IMO. The series seems more interested in shoehorning diversity and anti-establishment rhetoric rather than painting the political odyssey that Asimov imagined. I am imensely dissappointed with the show both as an interpretation of his work and standalone sci-fi series.
- nobody9999 5y ago>The series seems more interested in shoehorning diversity and anti-establishment rhetoric rather than painting the political odyssey that Asimov imagined. I am imensely dissappointed with the show both as an interpretation of his work and standalone sci-fi series. I didn't take that from the series at all. Rather, I found it to be overly moralistic, with references to the destructiveness of religious fervor and a lack of vision WRT the vastness of the galactic empire envisioned by Asimov. I'd say that rather than being anti-establishment, it's much more pro-establishment, where "the establishment" are the ones on the inside trying to good, while the corrupt ones do evil to their self-righteous, morally superior betters and equally evil outsiders, horrifying all the "right-thinking" people. It's pretty standard TV fare which, sadly, gives short shrift to Asimov's smart and insightful view of humans and how they wield and are molded by power. I'll watch it, both for the car crash in-slow-motion reaction of how they butcher the story, and for the pleasure of knowing Apple won't get a nickel out me for doing so.
- ozzythecat 5y ago