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As I understand it, Britain's "grammar schools" did have an influence/were imported to the U.S. into the New England area. However, these were not free -- and I
by throwaway2331 5y ago
As I understand it, Britain's "grammar schools" did have an influence/were imported to the U.S. into the New England area. However, these were not free -- and I'm certain the reason for not allowing them to be more "widespread" (but this is a relative term). Later on funding for public and compulsory (see: free) schooling would come in (philanthropic contributions/foundations in the U.S., and parliament funding in the U.K.) which would lead to them becoming "widespread" (or atleast, greatly more in relation to where they were before).
After this period, I have not done any more reading into Britain's system---only the U.S.'s; wherein, the G.E.B was setup to increase access to (and decide the vision of) public schooling for all, primarily in the South (which relied primarily on private tutors to teach the children of means).
These "grammar schools" following in the image of its U.K. counterparts did not suddenly disappear; but their impact on---already minor, due to tuitions---the greater public was overshadowed by the G.E.B's vastly deeply coffers, and likewise ability to reach more children. While the ends of early "grammar schools" in New England were to teach the Classics, and "enrich" the sons of the elite; the ends of G.E.B's were:
"In our dream, we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from their minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning, or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, editors, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have an ample supply…The task we set before ourselves is very simple as well as a very beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just where they are… So we will organize our children into a little community and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way, in the homes, in the shops and on the farm."[0]
I.e. an incomprehensible and non-communicated vision of Frederick Taylor Gates, that one is left to make sense of with his own devices. Nonetheless, these "Prussian Schools" were free from the influence of the common higher-class schooling of the time.
The Prussian Model is a misnomer. It's the "Frederick Taylor Gates" model, that spins and weaves various notions taken from all sorts of places, into an energizing story that helped him escape being a lowly preacher, to a person of means and "importance," via backing by John D. Rockefeller Sr. (in return, the latter continued his campaign of damage control against his public image and legacy).
[0] https://archive.org/details/countryschoolof00gate/page/6/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/countryschoolof00gate/page/6/mod...
- eesmith 5y agoThe US had more than English-style grammar schools. I'm a programmer, but even I know some of the US presidents had rather informal training. Lincoln, while mostly self-educated, received formal schooling from itinerant teachers. Andrew Johnson's education was through his employer and "augmented by citizens who would come to Selby's shop to read to the tailors as they worked" says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson#Childhood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson#Childhood . (This reminds me of Cuban cigar factories of Ybor City, where the workers hired "El Lector" to read while they worked, from topics ranging from socialism and unionization to romantic novels.) While my formal education didn't really cover it, there's also the infamous and repugnant American Indian boarding schools, whose inhumane practices continue to make the news as people continue to find new unmarked graves. So that's three distinct education approaches in addition to the grammar school one. FWIW, I interpret "The Prussian Model" as "tax-funded compulsory universal education." I think this linked-to essay, which cherry-picks quotes to interpret "The Prussian Model" as specifically an educational policy of non-thinking conformity, is poppy-cocky nonsense. EDIT: there were also schools which started after the Civil War to teach freedmen, eg, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_University (founded 1868) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_University (founded 1881). These both predate Frederick Taylor Gates (born 1853) who didn't start working with Rockefeller until 1889.