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This is an attitude I hear a lot from within my own family, but it ignores one of the primary reasons we took such measures in the first place: the healthcare s

This is an attitude I hear a lot from within my own family, but it ignores one of the primary reasons we took such measures in the first place: the healthcare system not being able to service that amount of load. It's not even about people dying from COVID as much as other, unrelated patients being denied access to necessary care because the healthcare system is flooded.

dham 5y ago
I agree but we have to think about the future. Modern humans have a horrible ability to plan for the future. It's all about instant gratification. Once I had kids I never really cared much about my on mortality anymore. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made. Maybe not this virus but humans will have to deal with a virus eventually where we're going to have to make a trade off. Again though this would have been similar to Hong Kong flu if it hit 40 years ago. Humans basically killed themselves, especially in the US. We were on a collision course with something like this for the last 30 years. People said we didn't do enough sooner or we didn't see this coming. Na, it had been coming for decades.
taxicabjesus 5y ago
> the healthcare system not being able to service that amount of load. At first the healthcare system was overwhelmed. Then Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell posted his rebellion video to YouTube, which said, essentially, “why are we following terrible advice to ventilate early? This is very bad medicine.” (I think Dr. Kyle-Sidell had previously only intubated patients who were actually in respiratory distress, and thought the non-distressed patients whose lungs he was damaging actually had something sort of like HAPE.) After the rebellion video ventilations fell off a cliff. The media stopped telling us how many ventilators we were short, because they weren’t needed anymore. I came across the doctor’s letter in a medical journal. Don’t think the observation about hypocapnia was ever followed up on: https://twitter.com/taxicabjesus/status/1455405908826091520 https://twitter.com/taxicabjesus/status/1455405908826091520

dham 5y ago

I agree but we have to think about the future. Modern humans have a horrible ability to plan for the future. It's all about instant gratification. Once I had kids I never really cared much about my on mortality anymore. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made. Maybe not this virus but humans will have to deal with a virus eventually where we're going to have to make a trade off. Again though this would have been similar to Hong Kong flu if it hit 40 years ago. Humans basically killed themselves, especially in the US. We were on a collision course with something like this for the last 30 years. People said we didn't do enough sooner or we didn't see this coming. Na, it had been coming for decades.

taxicabjesus 5y ago

> the healthcare system not being able to service that amount of load. At first the healthcare system was overwhelmed. Then Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell posted his rebellion video to YouTube, which said, essentially, “why are we following terrible advice to ventilate early? This is very bad medicine.” (I think Dr. Kyle-Sidell had previously only intubated patients who were actually in respiratory distress, and thought the non-distressed patients whose lungs he was damaging actually had something sort of like HAPE.) After the rebellion video ventilations fell off a cliff. The media stopped telling us how many ventilators we were short, because they weren’t needed anymore. I came across the doctor’s letter in a medical journal. Don’t think the observation about hypocapnia was ever followed up on: https://twitter.com/taxicabjesus/status/1455405908826091520 https://twitter.com/taxicabjesus/status/1455405908826091520