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What are the _total deaths_? What is the total mortality rate?

lokl 5y ago
You can view JHU's raw data sources at https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19. According to that, they are getting COVID death numbers for Sweden from the Swedish Public Health Agency via https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6.... I am not fluent in Swedish, but perhaps someone who is can tell you exactly how the Swedish Public Health Agency measures them. Likewise for the other countries cited.
gus_massa 5y ago
Death per million inhabitants in these 4 countries: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~FIN https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor... You can also compare with other neighbors and Europe: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~DEU~POL~LVA~LTU~RUS~FIN~Europe https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
- throwaway23487 5y ago
  Seems like a minuscule percentage. Is that a pragmatic-enough reason to significantly deteriorate the economy and mental health of the enormous majority of people?
  - marvin 5y ago
    The GDP change in 2020 for Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland were -2.8%, -0.8%, -2.7% and -2.8%, respectively. Sweden had no advantage over its neighbors on the economic outcome, and you'd need to cite real data in order to make an argument for mental health. Naïvely assuming a causal relationship with quarantine measures for both without considering positive effects of better health outcomes (and other factors) is fallacious.

lokl 5y ago

You can view JHU's raw data sources at https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19. According to that, they are getting COVID death numbers for Sweden from the Swedish Public Health Agency via https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6.... I am not fluent in Swedish, but perhaps someone who is can tell you exactly how the Swedish Public Health Agency measures them. Likewise for the other countries cited.

gus_massa 5y ago

Death per million inhabitants in these 4 countries: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~FIN https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor... You can also compare with other neighbors and Europe: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SWE~NOR~DNK~DEU~POL~LVA~LTU~RUS~FIN~Europe https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

throwaway23487 5y ago
Seems like a minuscule percentage. Is that a pragmatic-enough reason to significantly deteriorate the economy and mental health of the enormous majority of people?
- marvin 5y ago
  The GDP change in 2020 for Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland were -2.8%, -0.8%, -2.7% and -2.8%, respectively. Sweden had no advantage over its neighbors on the economic outcome, and you'd need to cite real data in order to make an argument for mental health. Naïvely assuming a causal relationship with quarantine measures for both without considering positive effects of better health outcomes (and other factors) is fallacious.