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> Leave me the hell alone! As long as that makes essential things such as grocery shopping more dangerous for others, such as myself, no.
by Denvercoder9 5y ago
> Leave me the hell alone!
As long as that makes essential things such as grocery shopping more dangerous for others, such as myself, no.
- ralph84 5y agoDo you have any evidence of a significant covid outbreak being traced to grocery shopping?
- ipaddr 5y agoYes just type covid breakout grocery store in google to see all the local breakouts in your area.
- bingohbangoh 5y agoOk, then when does this end? I'm all ears!
- doesnt_know 5y agoMaybe it doesn't? At least not until medical science catches up to allow the level of social/global interaction we had been taking for granted for decades. In the history of our species, we have never been this connected on a global level before, we were potentially sitting on a timebomb just waiting for the appropriate viral trigger to bring it down.
- Mountain_Skies 5y agoViolence. It gives people a lot of perspective very quickly. Sooner or later, it's where we're going to end up.
- abledon 5y ago[flagged]
- kaba0 5y agoAs far as I know the current view is that it won’t end, but it will become a regular the same way the flu is. There may even be yearly shots combined with flu shots for all the new variants that may evolve. I truly hate that guy, but “facts don’t care about your feelings”.
- Gigachad 5y agoI don’t think OP is concerned with yearly shots or covid hanging around. It’s the lockdowns and other restrictions that people care about.
- spookthesunset 5y agoBingo. It’s long since time to stop spending this much energy on this myopic fixation on Covid. There are billions of other things for each individual to worry about besides the spread of Covid. And that is a fact, which doesn’t care about the feelings of people pushing society to continue waging an impossible war on a respiratory virus.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoExcept that when these variants strike in waves they overwhelm hospitals that even the fittest among us still need from time to time. Perhaps permanently increased hospital capacity and a few million fewer people is a better trade off. Assuming there aren't other less visible costs.
- ricardobeat 5y agoThe existence of Covid won’t end, but the pandemic has to. Living with overloaded hospitals forever, or doubling/tripling our health systems capacity to deal with it permanently don’t sound like very good ideas.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoEndemic aerosolized variants could ultimately cull / mame everyone with a weakened immune response. The end game could be permanently higher overall mortality and reduced respiratory fitness in a significant part of the population. If humans evolve to adapt then those adaptations may come at the cost of something else, given large enough time scales.
- ipaddr 5y agoIt will be over if we go inside and plug into a matrix like world. That was the missing piece from the first lockdown. Mass VR simulating our world.
- blindmute 5y agoIt doesn't end until you make it end. When I close my laptop, I am unaware there is even anything going on; I don't wear a mask, I am unvaccinated, and I am fortunate enough to live in a place where people largely behave in this same way. My life is 100% the same as it was 3 years ago. If you're restricting your own behavior, stop. If you're being restricted by third parties, seriously consider moving or outright disobeying. This doesn't end until people (not politicians) make it end.
- Niksko 5y agoUnless you live in a 100% isolated, self sufficient community, your number will be called eventually. If that's the tradeoff you want to make then enjoy your life. But bragging about your life being the same as it was 3 years ago isn't the brag you think it is. Meanwhile, everyone else is living 90% of the life they were 3 years ago, but they'll continue that for a long and healthy life.
- blindmute 5y agoI don't think my number will be called. In the US, the hysteria is already fading even in the most liberal areas. In certain states like SC and FL, the people have pretty much decided that the pandemic is over. I really don't foresee this flipping back to lockdown in those areas. Self sufficiency is a virtue, one that I have been cultivating long before any of this happened; owning land and knowing how to use it makes a lot of the bullshit happening in the cities rather trivial. Working remotely takes care of the rest. There's no reason for me to brag here. You can pretend I am an unhealthy, fat hick if it makes you feel better. For anyone else who is thinking of becoming a bit more self sufficient and is chafing under the yoke, I would recommend leaving the large cities foremost, and buying a house on some arable land. Read "The New Complete Book of Self-Sufficiency" for a primer on what is possible.
- Niksko 5y agoThat's fair, if you're really that isolated then fair enough. Self sufficiency is great if you're able to achieve it, I commend you for that. My point is merely that the behaviours you describe (not wearing a mask, not being vaccinated) are counter to the self-sufficiency you're so fond of. Being that self sufficient sounds like something you wouldn't want to lose because you happened to catch COVID from your irregular contact with the rest of civilization.
- scohesc 5y agoWhen you can prove in a court of law that person "x" infected person "y" at "Z" date/time - then you can say this with even a minimal level of confidence. Don't want to get sick? Order groceries online and have them delivered to your door.
- mrinella 5y agoAre you saying that because it can’t be proven that you infected someone else, it is okay to put others at risk? And that since we can’t hold individuals responsible, everyone else needs to alter their behavior? That is, one infectious person wandering around a grocery store gets to force everyone else to shop online and is not doing anything wrong?
- ipaddr 5y agoThose delivery people may be carriers. Better to grow and eat your own produce and avoid society at all costs.