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The pfizer whistleblower was published in the British Medical Journal, not exactly a shabby publication. True or false, it was a news event and at least should

by starkd 5y ago

The pfizer whistleblower was published in the British Medical Journal, not exactly a shabby publication. True or false, it was a news event and at least should be addressed. The fact that it's been largely swept under the rug is not a good sign for science, which is built on skepticism, not compliance. I am willing to dismiss the whistleblower as nothing but smoke, if someone answered it. So far, they have not. Which is telling. VAERS data is self-reported data, so it is far from conclusive. However, it was put there for a reason and shouldn't be ignored. It was put there to flag problems that need to be investigated. Pfizermectin is not a conspiracy. He's just noting both ivermectin and the pfizer therapeautic are both protease inhibitors. That's all he said. None of these are "conspiracies". So far, they are inconvenient truth assertions that a certain people seem to want to put down. We deserve, we are entitled to a fuller discussion than they are given.

phonypc 5y ago
The conspiratorial aspect of the whistleblower situation isn't that it happened. It undoubtedly did. It's making a mountain out of a molehill and implying that the larger body of vaccine safety/efficacy data is suspect because of it. Maybe he doesn't imply this in so many words, but look at the titles of all his videos on vaccines (nearly universally highlighting supposed negative aspects) and tell me that's not the angle he's trying to convey. "Pfizermectin" is absolutely a full blown conspiracy theory that contends Paxlovid is functionally the same as ivermectin and there was an effort by Big Pharma to suppress ivermectin while they developed an on patent alternative. He repeatedly emphasizes that ivermectin is cheap in his video. I can't put myself through watching any more of it, but I can only assume he doesn't mention that the required concentrations for ivermectin to display said protease inhibition aren't achievable in vivo.
- starkd 5y ago
  "making a mountain out of a molehill" is not a conspiracy. I've noticed a long running trend with people calling something a conspiracy as a means to conveniently dismiss something they'd rather not bother with. The whistleblower was hired by the company pfizer contracted to do the trials as an auditor. Her very job was to audit the trials to ensure it was being done right. She claims she was fired for bringing it up. You don't see a problem with that? Why do they even have auditors? Dr. Campbell did say it was cheap, because it IS cheap. Why do you assume its something nefarious. He also didn't make any promises that it was a miracle drug, only that read a good study in which it demonstrated SOME efficacy. That can mean thousands of lives saved, if there is no other alternative. I think the number was 62% effectiveness, but i'm not sure. He gave the good and bad. That's the sign of a straight shooter. Someone who treats their viewers like adults that can make up their own mind.
  - phonypc 5y ago
    The whistleblower situation is an issue. It is not substantial cause for concern about the body of data demonstrating vaccine safety/efficacy. If you're interested, here's a thorough breakdown of the situation: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-the-bmj/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-t... There are no good studies on ivermectin indicating anything like 62% effectiveness on any metric. The fact that he would present such a study to his audience indicates he is either: not equipped to interpret the studies, or deliberately spreading misinformation.
    - starkd 5y ago
      yeah, I read that response to the BMJ article. I find their dismissal of the concerns to be unconvincing and an unserious attempt to respond. Just the title - "what the heck happened to the BMJ?" - conveys that message. Then they proceed to impugn the character of the reporter and the whistleblower. Using ad hominen attacks and trying to wave it off as "all handwavy stuff" should be a red flag.

by starkd 5y ago

phonypc 5y ago

The conspiratorial aspect of the whistleblower situation isn't that it happened. It undoubtedly did. It's making a mountain out of a molehill and implying that the larger body of vaccine safety/efficacy data is suspect because of it. Maybe he doesn't imply this in so many words, but look at the titles of all his videos on vaccines (nearly universally highlighting supposed negative aspects) and tell me that's not the angle he's trying to convey. "Pfizermectin" is absolutely a full blown conspiracy theory that contends Paxlovid is functionally the same as ivermectin and there was an effort by Big Pharma to suppress ivermectin while they developed an on patent alternative. He repeatedly emphasizes that ivermectin is cheap in his video. I can't put myself through watching any more of it, but I can only assume he doesn't mention that the required concentrations for ivermectin to display said protease inhibition aren't achievable in vivo.

starkd 5y ago
"making a mountain out of a molehill" is not a conspiracy. I've noticed a long running trend with people calling something a conspiracy as a means to conveniently dismiss something they'd rather not bother with. The whistleblower was hired by the company pfizer contracted to do the trials as an auditor. Her very job was to audit the trials to ensure it was being done right. She claims she was fired for bringing it up. You don't see a problem with that? Why do they even have auditors? Dr. Campbell did say it was cheap, because it IS cheap. Why do you assume its something nefarious. He also didn't make any promises that it was a miracle drug, only that read a good study in which it demonstrated SOME efficacy. That can mean thousands of lives saved, if there is no other alternative. I think the number was 62% effectiveness, but i'm not sure. He gave the good and bad. That's the sign of a straight shooter. Someone who treats their viewers like adults that can make up their own mind.
- phonypc 5y ago
  The whistleblower situation is an issue. It is not substantial cause for concern about the body of data demonstrating vaccine safety/efficacy. If you're interested, here's a thorough breakdown of the situation: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-the-bmj/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-t... There are no good studies on ivermectin indicating anything like 62% effectiveness on any metric. The fact that he would present such a study to his audience indicates he is either: not equipped to interpret the studies, or deliberately spreading misinformation.
  - starkd 5y ago
    yeah, I read that response to the BMJ article. I find their dismissal of the concerns to be unconvincing and an unserious attempt to respond. Just the title - "what the heck happened to the BMJ?" - conveys that message. Then they proceed to impugn the character of the reporter and the whistleblower. Using ad hominen attacks and trying to wave it off as "all handwavy stuff" should be a red flag.