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Machine shops are also private goods and their owners have a lot of incentive to keep them working, so I don't think this example is very accurate. In any case

by WJW 5y ago

Machine shops are also private goods and their owners have a lot of incentive to keep them working, so I don't think this example is very accurate. In any case the chance of breaking anything with a partially stripped screwdriver is pretty minimal.

999900000999 5y ago
If you don't know what you're doing you can strip a screw. Getting it out won't be fun.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  if you're at home, with no other tools, it could be painful. but in a shop unless you can't take it out using other means (pliers for example or a nut split remover), you can simply weld a bolt on the screw's head and use a wrench to unscrew it. or drill a hole through it after removing the head and use another screw to take out the moncone from the other side. Bad screws are more common than bad screwdrivers and even a brand new screwdriver could lead to the same result. as the original post said "If it breaks all the time, everybody is highly experienced at patching together new workarounds"
  - 999900000999 5y ago
    Let's just keep going off this hypothetical, it would still be a better idea to have working screwdrivers. All the steps you outlined risk damaging the part you're working on, or wasting time. Let's just say you only value your time as a mechanic at $30 an hour if getting that screw out takes you another 20 or 30 minutes, you would have been better off buying a $5 screw bit
    - peoplefromibiza 5y ago
      not hypothetically speaking, it takes a couple of minutes but what the original post said it's not that you shouldn't buy a new screwdriver, but that it you know something will break, you learn how to fix it. if your brand new screwdriver ends up stripping that screw anyway and you don't know what to do next because you thought that it would never happen using a working screwdriver, well. you're screwed :) sometimes there are no good solutions, only bad solutions that's what keep things working. if everyone believed that spit and bailing wire was a no go, because they are bad solutions and there's a better one - there always is - (i.e. fixing the root cause, after having identified it) there would be no internet as we know it today.

by WJW 5y ago

999900000999 5y ago

If you don't know what you're doing you can strip a screw. Getting it out won't be fun.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
if you're at home, with no other tools, it could be painful. but in a shop unless you can't take it out using other means (pliers for example or a nut split remover), you can simply weld a bolt on the screw's head and use a wrench to unscrew it. or drill a hole through it after removing the head and use another screw to take out the moncone from the other side. Bad screws are more common than bad screwdrivers and even a brand new screwdriver could lead to the same result. as the original post said "If it breaks all the time, everybody is highly experienced at patching together new workarounds"
- 999900000999 5y ago
  Let's just keep going off this hypothetical, it would still be a better idea to have working screwdrivers. All the steps you outlined risk damaging the part you're working on, or wasting time. Let's just say you only value your time as a mechanic at $30 an hour if getting that screw out takes you another 20 or 30 minutes, you would have been better off buying a $5 screw bit
  - peoplefromibiza 5y ago
    not hypothetically speaking, it takes a couple of minutes but what the original post said it's not that you shouldn't buy a new screwdriver, but that it you know something will break, you learn how to fix it. if your brand new screwdriver ends up stripping that screw anyway and you don't know what to do next because you thought that it would never happen using a working screwdriver, well. you're screwed :) sometimes there are no good solutions, only bad solutions that's what keep things working. if everyone believed that spit and bailing wire was a no go, because they are bad solutions and there's a better one - there always is - (i.e. fixing the root cause, after having identified it) there would be no internet as we know it today.