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> Good! Keep it up. Let things be, enough of this vaccine pass comrade BS. You're going to get heavily downvoted, but I totally agree. The vaccine pass is a co

by dvt 5y ago

> Good! Keep it up. Let things be, enough of this vaccine pass comrade BS. You're going to get heavily downvoted, but I totally agree. The vaccine pass is a complete farce. I even have non-technical friends that have faked vaccine passes. For someone even remotely technical, it's trivial to Photoshop. If only we had the same fervor when it comes to demonizing weight gain, we could save 10x more lives.

asddubs 5y ago
weight gain isn't contagious
- dvt 5y ago
  Actually, it is, as it tends to be intergenerational[1]. Parents that don't care about their health will raise kids that don't care about their health. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5305001/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5305001/
  - coolso 5y ago
    Furthermore, even outside of an immediate family, the more overweight people are, the more socially acceptable it becomes, resulting in more obesity. There’s also the massive costs to our healthcare system and insurance premiums.
    - threeseed 5y ago
      And yet obesity whilst being a problem for decades has not caused an epidemic of obese people. Why is that ? Because obesity is not contagious and most people don't make decisions about what they eat and their activity levels based on choices other people make.
      - dvt 5y ago
        > And yet obesity whilst being a problem for decades has not caused an epidemic of obese people. Really? Over 40% of US adults being obese[1] is not an epidemic? [1] https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
        threeseed 5y ago
        I know this may come as a shock but the world is bigger than the US. COVID strikes people of all backgrounds not just those from wealthy countries who can afford to eat well.
        hazza_n_dazza 5y ago
        obese people suffer worse outcomes from covid
  - Scharkenberg 5y ago
    That's not what contagious means.
    - dvt 5y ago
      Wrong: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5124998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5124998/ (also see footnote 1).
      - artursapek 5y ago
        baste
- _dain_ 5y ago
  no but it's aesthetically disgusting
  - threeseed 5y ago
    Please post photos of yourself. Would help us to put in context what aesthetic perfection looks like.
    - _dain_ 5y ago
      only if you post evidence of your possessing qualia (I have severe doubts)
threeseed 5y ago
5+ million people have died from COVID. Despite having most of the world being under lockdown as well as increasing vaccination. Without those measures it could easily have been hundreds of millions. It is ridiculous and baseless to compare it to obesity which is not causing any significant strain on the hospital system like COVID is.
- dvt 5y ago
  > It is ridiculous and baseless to compare it to obesity which is not causing any significant strain on the hospital system like COVID is. Wrong[1][2][3][4]. I get that it may not be politically convenient for you, but let's not mince words: obesity is killing many more people than COVID ever did or ever will. [1] https://www.cardinalhealth.com/en/essential-insights/obesity-and-our-healthcare-system.html#:~:text=Increased%20spend%20on%20pharmaceuticals%3A%20Obesity,sign%20monitoring%20by%20the%20nurse https://www.cardinalhealth.com/en/essential-insights/obesity.... [2] https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111302222 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111302... [3] https://www.the-hospitalist.org/hospitalist/article/123191/obesity-problem-us-hospitals https://www.the-hospitalist.org/hospitalist/article/123191/o... [4] https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/04/obesity-putting-strain-on-nhs-as-weight-related-admissions-rise https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/04/obesity-putt...
- artursapek 5y ago
  Fatties are dying from covid at a much, much higher rate than healthy people.
- ryanlol 5y ago
  > 5+ million people have died from COVID. This is a shit metric, deliberately designed to mislead. The real metric that matters is years of life lost (YLL).
roca 5y ago
If only there was a super cheap, safe, effective and instant medical treatment that could prevent obesity or at least its negative health effects. Because if there was, and yet obese people refused to take it and consequently soaked up a lot of health-care resources, you can be sure they would be demonized just as much as people who refuse to take COVID vaccines.
- Eelongate 5y ago
  > If only there was a super cheap, safe, effective and instant medical treatment that could prevent obesity or at least its negative health effects. It's called "don't overeat" and it's cheaper than the alternative. Virtually all massively obese people eat massive portions compared to the rest of us. They always have inane excuses about "glandular problems" and "genetics" but I've seen how they eat and I believe what my eyes tell me more than I believe the claims the fatties make about themselves. I've seen people wolf down five potatoes worth of mashed potatoes "as a snack" then tell me they eat normal portion sizes. Bullshit!
  - mafuy 5y ago
    You've explained the parent's joke ;)
- eqth 5y ago
  >If only there was a super cheap, safe, effective and instant medical treatment that could prevent obesity or at least its negative health effects >he hasn't tried not eating
sschueller 5y ago
Photoshop? Where do you live that the passes are not cryptographicaly signed?

by dvt 5y ago

asddubs 5y ago

weight gain isn't contagious

dvt 5y ago
Actually, it is, as it tends to be intergenerational[1]. Parents that don't care about their health will raise kids that don't care about their health. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5305001/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5305001/
- coolso 5y ago
  Furthermore, even outside of an immediate family, the more overweight people are, the more socially acceptable it becomes, resulting in more obesity. There’s also the massive costs to our healthcare system and insurance premiums.
  - threeseed 5y ago
    And yet obesity whilst being a problem for decades has not caused an epidemic of obese people. Why is that ? Because obesity is not contagious and most people don't make decisions about what they eat and their activity levels based on choices other people make.
    - dvt 5y ago
      > And yet obesity whilst being a problem for decades has not caused an epidemic of obese people. Really? Over 40% of US adults being obese[1] is not an epidemic? [1] https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
      - threeseed 5y ago
        I know this may come as a shock but the world is bigger than the US. COVID strikes people of all backgrounds not just those from wealthy countries who can afford to eat well.
        hazza_n_dazza 5y ago
        obese people suffer worse outcomes from covid
- Scharkenberg 5y ago
  That's not what contagious means.
  - dvt 5y ago
    Wrong: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5124998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5124998/ (also see footnote 1).
    - artursapek 5y ago
      baste
_dain_ 5y ago
no but it's aesthetically disgusting
- threeseed 5y ago
  Please post photos of yourself. Would help us to put in context what aesthetic perfection looks like.
  - _dain_ 5y ago
    only if you post evidence of your possessing qualia (I have severe doubts)

threeseed 5y ago

5+ million people have died from COVID. Despite having most of the world being under lockdown as well as increasing vaccination. Without those measures it could easily have been hundreds of millions. It is ridiculous and baseless to compare it to obesity which is not causing any significant strain on the hospital system like COVID is.

dvt 5y ago
> It is ridiculous and baseless to compare it to obesity which is not causing any significant strain on the hospital system like COVID is. Wrong[1][2][3][4]. I get that it may not be politically convenient for you, but let's not mince words: obesity is killing many more people than COVID ever did or ever will. [1] https://www.cardinalhealth.com/en/essential-insights/obesity-and-our-healthcare-system.html#:~:text=Increased%20spend%20on%20pharmaceuticals%3A%20Obesity,sign%20monitoring%20by%20the%20nurse https://www.cardinalhealth.com/en/essential-insights/obesity.... [2] https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111302222 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111302... [3] https://www.the-hospitalist.org/hospitalist/article/123191/obesity-problem-us-hospitals https://www.the-hospitalist.org/hospitalist/article/123191/o... [4] https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/04/obesity-putting-strain-on-nhs-as-weight-related-admissions-rise https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/04/obesity-putt...
artursapek 5y ago
Fatties are dying from covid at a much, much higher rate than healthy people.
ryanlol 5y ago
> 5+ million people have died from COVID. This is a shit metric, deliberately designed to mislead. The real metric that matters is years of life lost (YLL).

roca 5y ago

If only there was a super cheap, safe, effective and instant medical treatment that could prevent obesity or at least its negative health effects. Because if there was, and yet obese people refused to take it and consequently soaked up a lot of health-care resources, you can be sure they would be demonized just as much as people who refuse to take COVID vaccines.

Eelongate 5y ago
> If only there was a super cheap, safe, effective and instant medical treatment that could prevent obesity or at least its negative health effects. It's called "don't overeat" and it's cheaper than the alternative. Virtually all massively obese people eat massive portions compared to the rest of us. They always have inane excuses about "glandular problems" and "genetics" but I've seen how they eat and I believe what my eyes tell me more than I believe the claims the fatties make about themselves. I've seen people wolf down five potatoes worth of mashed potatoes "as a snack" then tell me they eat normal portion sizes. Bullshit!
- mafuy 5y ago
  You've explained the parent's joke ;)
eqth 5y ago
>If only there was a super cheap, safe, effective and instant medical treatment that could prevent obesity or at least its negative health effects >he hasn't tried not eating

sschueller 5y ago

Photoshop? Where do you live that the passes are not cryptographicaly signed?