> Just because these activities fail for a lot of people doesn’t make the practitioners sheeple Of course not. What makes people sheeple is treating someone no

> Just because these activities fail for a lot of people doesn’t make the practitioners sheeple Of course not. What makes people sheeple is treating someone not wearing a seat belt like a war criminal. > This insistence that all of the societal technology that we’ve developed that got us from 100,000 humans to 7 billion is bad is pastoralism at best, a suicide cult at worst. Who is making this claim? Some nut on twitter maybe but no one in this thread. > Going back to pre-enlightenment society will reduce us to just another animal. It's interesting that you invoke The Englightenment. One definition of The Enlightenment I see is "use science AKA empricism to make decisions". But another part of The Englighenment is liberalism: the idea that individual people are adults who ought to be able to make decisions about their lives. That people can't simply depend on the state, the church, or the law, that every adult human is a moral legislator who must draft his own law and live up to it (or fail to).